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Week 40 - ATP Masters 1000 - Shanghai, China (hard)


L96:  BYE vs (30) Daniel Evans WR 33 (CH = 21 in August)

L96:  BYE vs (15) Cameron Norrie WR 16 (CH = 8 last September)

L96:  Roman Safiullin (***) WR 41 (= CH) vs Andy Murray WR 40 (CH = 1 in November 2016)

The winner will play Zverev.



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Didnt Andy play Safiullin recently or was that another Brit - and lost I believe?

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JonH comes home wrote:

Didnt Andy play Safiullin recently or was that another Brit - and lost I believe?


Safiullin beat Dan in straight sets in Chengdu - and lost in 3 sets in the final - to Zverev



-- Edited by the addict on Monday 2nd of October 2023 11:55:36 AM

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So Mark Polmans was match point up, missed his volley, banged the ball into the ground in anger, it bounced up and hit the umpire in the face - and he was immediately disqualified

www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/tennis/tennis-star-on-match-point-gets-immediately-disqualified-for-firing-ball-in-umpire-s-face/ar-AA1hCmJp

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Andy on court today in the early afternoon, fourth match on his court

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L96:  Roman Safiullin (***) WR 41 defeated Andy Murray WR 40 by 3 & 2  cry



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Andys court demeanour has been awful in China. He needs to go home and call it a season

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im amazed he went there for so long - hasnt done him any real good as he has had few wins (no wins?)

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Little generally surprises me re Andy. He's at heart such a competitor and loves to prove himself.

But lately, for the first time really ( other than when he himself previously thought it was over ) with it just not happening, I sense a possible closure time. That next year might be his last year ...



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indiana wrote:

Little generally surprises me re Andy. He's at heart such a competitor and loves to prove himself.

But lately, for the first time really ( other than when he himself previously thought it was over ) with it just not happening, I sense a possible closure time. That next year might be his last year ...


 that is my feeling also - US OPen next year might be the end



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Andy has every right to retire whenever he feels it's the right time, not dictated by anyone else.

That said I chose to watch Sinner v Medvedev over Andy's match and I think that reflects the shift that naturally happens towards the end of someones competitive career.

But lets hope there are still a few good wins we can enjoy.

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Armchair wrote:

Andy has every right to retire whenever he feels it's the right time, not dictated by anyone else.

That said I chose to watch Sinner v Medvedev over Andy's match and I think that reflects the shift that naturally happens towards the end of someones competitive career.

But lets hope there are still a few good wins we can enjoy.


 absolutely agree, his call, but his post Wimbledon comments and other things I think lead many people to conclude next season may be his last. Hard to imagine he will want to still be traipsing around inner China or wherever if he isnt winning and progressing. 



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JonH comes home wrote:
Armchair wrote:

Andy has every right to retire whenever he feels it's the right time, not dictated by anyone else.

That said I chose to watch Sinner v Medvedev over Andy's match and I think that reflects the shift that naturally happens towards the end of someones competitive career.

But lets hope there are still a few good wins we can enjoy.


 absolutely agree, his call, but his post Wimbledon comments and other things I think lead many people to conclude next season may be his last. Hard to imagine he will want to still be traipsing around inner China or wherever if he isnt winning and progressing. 


 I thought he should have retired after Wimbledon 2023. That said it is his decision, but it can be a pretty torrid watch if he can't meet this standard. He has a family - this strategy hasn't gone well. Do a Federer - show your family some respect. 



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Var wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Armchair wrote:

Andy has every right to retire whenever he feels it's the right time, not dictated by anyone else.

That said I chose to watch Sinner v Medvedev over Andy's match and I think that reflects the shift that naturally happens towards the end of someones competitive career.

But lets hope there are still a few good wins we can enjoy.


 absolutely agree, his call, but his post Wimbledon comments and other things I think lead many people to conclude next season may be his last. Hard to imagine he will want to still be traipsing around inner China or wherever if he isnt winning and progressing. 


 I thought he should have retired after Wimbledon 2023. That said it is his decision, but it can be a pretty torrid watch if he can't meet this standard. He has a family - this strategy hasn't gone well. Do a Federer - show your family some respect. 


 That's very unfair. He always makes clear that he involves his family in discussions about his future. It's not up to us to tell him when to retire: he has all the facts that we don't have. He may well retire soon but whatever he decides, he has always been very respectful of his family. 



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indiana wrote:

Little generally surprises me re Andy. He's at heart such a competitor and loves to prove himself.

But lately, for the first time really ( other than when he himself previously thought it was over ) with it just not happening, I sense a possible closure time. That next year might be his last year ...


 It's clear how much he loves the sport but is increasingly frustrated he isn't competitive at the level he wants to be. I think he'd still like one more ATP title or a second week run in a slam but my best guess is he'll call it a day if he believes it's now beyond him.



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