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When do you think Murray Will be able to beat nadal on say, hard court [13 vote(s)]

Now
23.1%
Couple of years
23.1%
At some stage
38.5%
If Nadal was in a wheelchair
15.4%


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Game plan for Murray vs.Dmitry Tursunov


I think tonight murray will outplay Dmitry Tursunov. The reason being, that Dmitry Tursunov is a powerful baseliner and that suits andy down to the ground as he counterounches that style of play where as we have come to discover andy has looked normal against serve and volley players, gimblestob, henman even though he won and there are other examples. Henman does'nt have the ability to out play tursunovs power, but murray's rerturning is second to none. Counterpunch is the tactic form the baseline- peace out 



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so what does everyone think about the tactics brad will provide with to murray?

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I agree with you entirely, I think Andy will beat Tursunov for those exact reasons. Andy has a more powerful baseline game than Henman and he's better at soaking up the pressure from the big hitters. Also, due to his clay upbringing he's more consistent from the baseline and that's exactly what's needed to beat Tursunov as aswell as striking amazing winners, Tursunov will also make quite a few daft errors and Andy's consistency will enable him to exploit that as at Nottingham this year.

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The only area I am concerned about tonight is Andy's 2nd serve. If he's done his homework, Dmitry will look to go after that, hopefully Andy will aim to put a bit more bite on it to combat that.

I reckon there will be quite a few breaks of serve.

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yeh, like the errors he made against tim at queens, he practicly left the ball next to him as he was frustrated

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form what ive read, andys 2nd serve seems pretty good this week

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so you think that brad will tell andy no drop shots what so ever come say grass season, or even now

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Yeah, the stats for that have looked really good which is impressive. It was so much better at Wimbledon than during the clay season.

I think Andy is placing it a lot better. Tursunov can still take an almighty rip at the ball though on the return, it's one of his main strengths.

Do you remember that point in the Tursunov-henman match at Queens when during a long rally at the end of the 1st set on set point to Tim, Dmitry suddenly just walked off the court in the middle of it ! Lol

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yesyesbadboy wrote:

so you think that brad will tell andy no drop shots what so ever come say grass season, or even now



I think Brad wants Andy to cut down on the drop shots which Andy won't be too happy with but I think it's a good move as he only really has a 50-50 success rate with them. His technique for hitting them is fabulous, he just does them so often that opponents start to read when it's going to happen. Needs to be used more as a surprise tactic.

They will be most effective on clay and grass. On hard, it's easier for the opponent to get them as the ball will bounce higher.

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yeh thats the one i was talking about calssic, he is a joker

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I think that the poll regarding Murray beating Nadal is currently a bit optimistic. Nadal is such a great player right now, he and Fed are in a different league to the rest of men's tennis and both look set to go down as all-time greats. It's too early in Andy's career to say yet whether he's got the ability to be a serious rival to Nadal, he's got the talent but do their games match up well enough in Andy's favour. That's the big question.

Hard courts are Nadal's 2nd best surface, I think Andy's best chance would currently come either indoors or on grass. To win Andy would have to be a lot more aggressive than he normally is, he isn't going to out-counterpunch Nadal who's too consistent and has got too much weight of shot for that.

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my mate said he has heard a very intersting rumor about murray and henman, hes going to ring me aat about 12, so i will post then, he text me saying while he was working at queens he heard something, i havent seen him as he was in america till now, back this morning.



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Intriguing !

Please let us all know what it is when you find out !

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will do, and also thinking about his prospects against clement if he wins, i think he will nail clement this time, last time he was feeble and unlucky. Clement is a good player, where will murray be ranked, ive heard


 


        33- IF HE LOSES TONITE


        32- IF HE COMES RUNNER UP IN FINAL


        27/28- IF HE WINS THE TOURNAMENT



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27-28 would be really fantastic, and would virtually guarantee a US Open seeding surely . It would offer a bit of insurance on that in case Andy did badly in Toronto and Cincinatti

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