Fed Cup 2012

philwrig · Hall of fame

RE: Fed Cup 2012

jake270392 · Intermediate Club Player

philwrig wrote:
Probably just need to win one match tomorrow.

Does it not go on H2H or is no of wins, sets, games etc if it comes down to a tie?

murrayman650 · ATP level

so as it stands

1st) Great Britain 2 wins and 0 losses , 5 rubbers won and 1 lost , 11 sets to 2

2nd) Israel , 1 win and 1 loss, 3 rubbers won and 3 lost , 7 sets won and 8 sets lost

3rd) Portgual 1 win and 1 loss, 2 rubbers won and 4 lost, 4 sets won and 9 sets lost

4th) Netherlands 0 wins and 2 losses, 2 rubbers won and 4 lost , 6 sets won and 10 lost

philwrig · Hall of fame

Got that wrong, we need Portugal to win by any scoreline, and then we just need to win one match.

murrayman650 · ATP level

How about we just win

indiana · Tennis legend

murrayman650 wrote:
How about we just win

YES, that would be best biggrin

jake270392 · Intermediate Club Player

if Peer plays the way she did against Brito then I am confident we can win, she was awful, all Brito did was get the ball in court and Peer either hit into the net or miles out haha.

Come on GB!!:)

philwrig · Hall of fame

Tweets from Miss Krajicek, may also explain why Peer was so poor also:

Good effort today from @Bube88! Unfortunately my body didn't recover from last night so I lost 3-6,3-6 to E.Baltacha and didn't play the deciding doubles. Looking forward to resting well tonight and to have a good day tomorrow vs. Portugal #nedfcteam

RBBOT · Futures qualifying

Understandable. If you look at sets played in the last two days:

Peer 11
Glusko 10
Anne 5
Bally 4
Laura 4
Heather 4

DavidC · Tennis legend

It's a big plus in Fed Cup zonal groups to be able to share the load round 3 or 4 players. Teams reliant on 2 players often find that there's a day when one of them is fatigued or can't play. What's unclear is whether Peer's struggle today and quick defeat will give her the chance to recover more for tomorrow. I wouldn't be surprised if Heather is offered the second singles slot instead of Anne tomorrow, which both should be capable of winning, partly with a view to the long-term and partly so Judy can gauge better who to throw in to Saturday's decider if we make it.

RBBOT · Futures qualifying

They both should easily beat Glushko. Her record against Brits is:

Singles Victories against: Mel, Pippa Horn, Lottie Fox, Nicola Slater, Rebecca Fong
Singles Loses against: Naomi, Tara, Mel, Jade Curtis
Doubles Loses against: Heather, Emily, Lisa

Her best wins I found in quick slim of her record for the last 2 years (and probably overall, given her age) were against Jarmila Groth (WR ~40) 18 months ago by retirement, and Silvia Solder Espinosa (WR ~80) in the 2011 Australian Open QR1. If she were to beat Laura it would be her biggest win in terms of ranking since then.

The biggest concern is the effect of the Israeli crowd.

Peer's only British opposition in that time period was Borwell/South, winning in Wimbledon doubles, and beating Rae/Flemming in the mixed.

steven · Tennis legend

adz1983 wrote:
indiana wrote:
If we win one rubber, we also need Portugal to beat Netherlands or Israel beat us on head to head.
Sets and games will not come into this.
Clear as mud on the Fedcup website: http://www.fedcup.com/en/news/articles/europeafrica-zone-group-i-day-2.aspx
Can't get my head round it. So yes GB just win for the sake of my poor brain.

They haven't got it wrong in that article, they have just missed out quite a few possibilities. The correct possiblities have already been mentioned above, but it might help to set them out one by one, so here goes ...

GBR win -> GBR the only team with 3 tie wins -> GBR go through whatever happens in NED v POR

ISR win & NED win -> GBR & ISR both with 2 tie wins, NED & POR 1 -> 2-way tie -> ISR go through on H2H v GBR

ISR win & POR win -> GBR, ISR & POR all with 2 tie wins, NED 0 -> 3-way tie -> decided on matches won as follows:

ISR 3-0 & POR 3-0 -> GBR 5, ISR 6, POR 5 -> ISR go through
ISR 3-0 & POR 2-1 -> GBR 5, ISR 6, POR 4 -> ISR go through

ISR 2-1 & POR 3-0 -> GBR 6, ISR 5, POR 5 -> GBR go through
ISR 2-1 & POR 2-1 -> GBR 6, ISR 5, POR 4 -> GBR go through

So, as people have mentioned above, this reduces to GB needing to beat ISR, but a 1-2 loss to Israel would be enough if POR to beat NED as well.

Reference: Fed Cup 2012 rulebook http://bit.ly/wSL8zS Appendix A part 11

indiana · Tennis legend

Good we all seem agreed . So if you just bothered about GB all ya need to know is :

".., this reduces to GB needing to beat ISR, but a 1-2 loss to Israel would be enough if POR to beat NED as well."

-- Edited by indiana on Friday 3rd of February 2012 01:18:38 PM

indiana · Tennis legend

philwrig wrote:
Austria beat Bulgaria.

No change to the lineup, for me just about the right call, Anne is still favourite to beat Glushko, and dropping her IMO would send the wrong message.

What wrong message confuse

-- Edited by indiana on Friday 3rd of February 2012 01:51:53 PM

jake270392 · Intermediate Club Player

philwrig wrote:
jake270392 wrote:

Livestream - http://www.sport5.co.il/liga.aspx?FolderID=410=he

Thanks, but I get an error message when I bring that up.

If you search for it by putting in the sport5 bit, the website should come up then just find where the tennis page is, hope this helps.

-- Edited by jake270392 on Friday 3rd of February 2012 02:23:14 PM