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indiana


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This old "fail to grasp" the more interest / added spectator expeerience is becoming the more redundant the more and more A131 and I address it, accept it as an issue for many and hence to be considered in the round.

But we just consider that in Slams with so many great players and great tennis to see with what would be thronging crowds anyway ( and income ) that the argument for Slam MD places being for the best ranked and qualifiers holding sway.

There is a difference between "failing to grasp" ( especially having confronted similar arguments for years ) and understanding precisely what is being said, weighing it up differently and coming to a different overall viewpoint on the giving out of Slam MD WCs.

Grasp the point being made, but not persuaded that the spectator experience argument outweighs the view that the Slams are special and all main draw places should be earned.



-- Edited by indiana on Monday 22nd of June 2015 05:01:54 PM

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I do appreciate that some people have a principled objection to wild cards, especially in slams. I do however struggle to see why intelligent people waste so much time complaining it about it. Quite frankly it is a futile as complaining that the sun rises in the east.

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Hang on are you trying to tell me the son rises in the east!!! Not if your at the poles it doesn't.

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So, today, on the Wimbledon site, it says the wildcards are as follows:

Qualifying Gentlemens Singles

1. CORRIE, Edward (GBR)

2. COX, Daniel (GBR)

3. MILTON, Joshua (GBR)

4. BLOOMFIELD, Richard (GBR)

5. GABB, Richard (GBR)

6. WARD, Alexander (GBR)

7. Not used - next direct acceptance

8. Not used - next direct acceptance

9. Not used - next direct acceptance


Dan Evans is in the draw, however. And presumably not by direct entry! Is it really SO difficult to get lists right? Is there not anyone from the admin department, or any other department, that knows what they're doing?

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Of course, RJA, nothing is going to particularly change and noone is pretending otherwise.

But A131 and I essentially expressed the same views last year without anything like this lengthy palaver and yes were clearly in the minority then too. What happened though was that each "side" pretty quickly understood and acknowledged the other's position, agreed to disagree and moved on.

This year we initially faced some quite lengthy argument, much of which was based on ( hopefully innocent ) misunderstandings. So some of that needed replied to and shot down and further repetition of our big concern being MD WCS & NOT Q WCS, THESE BEING SLAM MD WCS, AND FOR ALL SLAMS.

Arguing against us is fair enough of course, but doing so based on so many misrepresentations / misunderstandings while at times making fun of our stance, is not a great combination. Apologies if I maybe seemed to rather lose my sense of humour at some of the incoming "humour".

At the heart to me it remains fairly simply - our belief in earned Slam MD WCs against those who see more merit in added WCs, particularly home WCs, with whatever added spectator interest they give. Some folk will see it strongly one way or the other, many much more in between.

So, having made all our points ( for now ) maybe we can again agree to disagree and move on. We could / should have got there more quickly, but no apology from me for defending a point of view and necessary repeated clarification of the perameters of that point of view. I suggest plenty folk would say that that's not what they are arguing.



-- Edited by indiana on Monday 22nd of June 2015 03:20:31 PM

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The lack of wildcards may give certain players a sense of reality of where they need to be to earn a wildcard/qualifying wildcard next year now.

Marcus needs to boost that ranking by being much more consistent( tends to have I good set of results a month)
Dave Rice - needs to get back some form where he was winning 10k/15k(new coach may help)
Dan Smethurst needs to stay fit and results will come
Bambo and Joe Salisbury need to be more ruthless - they get into good positions and cannot always win the big points.
etc etc


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