Week 45 - Challenger 80 (€44,820) - Sparkasse Challenger Val Gardena/Südtirol - Ortisei, Italy (indoor hard)

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

RE: Week 45 - Challenger 80 (€44,820) - Sparkasse Challenger Val Gardena/Südtirol - Ortisei, Italy (indoor hard)

Priesty · Challenger level

Jack's serve begins to falter, 2 DFs in one game and a netted BH gifts Otte the break....1-2*

I fear it may be all downhill from here.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
Gaio played a spectacularly awful game - three hideous unforced errors that missed by a country mile.

And Jack still couldn't break.

And had a complete fit and smashed his racket.

I've no time for that. It's pathetic.

The world has enough product waste to fill landfills.

Who does Jack think he is deliberately and petulantly adding yet more? He's lucky he has the funds to buy a new racket. And I guess the state of the planet doesn't concern him.

Nadal says he's never smashed a racket in his whole life. I have a respect for that.

There are plenty of other ways to vent your anger.
It happens. i smashed the odd racquet when young in tennis and squash and got banned from the club team for a week. cant say it bothers me too much . Its when players insult other players or worse officials that I lose the thread.

With all respect (), that was probably a little while ago, Jon.

(And you shouldn't have done so, anyway)

From a planetary point of view, ruining a perfectly good racket, which will now go straight in landfill, and will waste its carbon footprint and now requires a new one to be bought (new carbon footprint) is far worse than shouting an insult at someone (although from a societal point of view, of course, rudeness may be worse).

PS This is not just at Jack, but anyone who deliberately smashes their racket

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

SF: (1) Oscar Otte (GER) WR 125 defeated Jack Draper WR 278 by 7-6(3) 6-4

Julia Carrot · All-time great

Jack played well, Otte was just better. it wasn't the most interesting of matches to watch though, very little variety.

GBJ · Club Coach

Julia Carrot wrote:
Jack played well, Otte was just better. it wasn't the most interesting of matches to watch though, very little variety.

Agreed that it was not the most entertaining match but I think this was less due to lack of variety and more due to just two players who are much stronger on serve than return meaning fewer rallies.

Wierd how in the first set they stats were quite even - 10 aces to 9 to Otte I think and Otte getting just a little higher win rate behind both 1st and second serve - then in the second Jacks aces tried up whilst Otte got up to 19 total but their stats stayed pretty similar otherwise. Main difference from the first set was that Jack got bps in a couple of games

Overall a couple of points here and there and it could have been 7-6 7-6 to Jack. Encouraging how he was still in fighting and getting to bp right near the end and never capitulated despite looking v frustrated (perhaps a little too much? Though he obviously is just hungry to win).

flamingowings · All-time great

Coup Droit wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
Gaio played a spectacularly awful game - three hideous unforced errors that missed by a country mile.

And Jack still couldn't break.

And had a complete fit and smashed his racket.

I've no time for that. It's pathetic.

The world has enough product waste to fill landfills.

Who does Jack think he is deliberately and petulantly adding yet more? He's lucky he has the funds to buy a new racket. And I guess the state of the planet doesn't concern him.

Nadal says he's never smashed a racket in his whole life. I have a respect for that.

There are plenty of other ways to vent your anger.
It happens. i smashed the odd racquet when young in tennis and squash and got banned from the club team for a week. cant say it bothers me too much . Its when players insult other players or worse officials that I lose the thread.
With all respect (), that was probably a little while ago, Jon.
(And you shouldn't have done so, anyway)
From a planetary point of view, ruining a perfectly good racket, which will now go straight in landfill, and will waste its carbon footprint and now requires a new one to be bought (new carbon footprint) is far worse than shouting an insult at someone (although from a societal point of view, of course, rudeness may be worse).
PS This is not just at Jack, but anyone who deliberately smashes their racket

I agree on the bracket smashes but disagree that its worse than rudeness. Often the people players are being rude to (particularly when it is men to women) is to people like umpires or the ref.

After all, several players have said something to do with killing to umpires.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

I didn't say it was worse than rudeness.
I said it was worse for the environment and the planet than rudeness.
But rudeness may well be worse on a societal basis.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

flamingowings wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
Gaio played a spectacularly awful game - three hideous unforced errors that missed by a country mile.

And Jack still couldn't break.

And had a complete fit and smashed his racket.

I've no time for that. It's pathetic.

The world has enough product waste to fill landfills.

Who does Jack think he is deliberately and petulantly adding yet more? He's lucky he has the funds to buy a new racket. And I guess the state of the planet doesn't concern him.

Nadal says he's never smashed a racket in his whole life. I have a respect for that.

There are plenty of other ways to vent your anger.
It happens. i smashed the odd racquet when young in tennis and squash and got banned from the club team for a week. cant say it bothers me too much . Its when players insult other players or worse officials that I lose the thread.
With all respect (), that was probably a little while ago, Jon.
(And you shouldn't have done so, anyway)
From a planetary point of view, ruining a perfectly good racket, which will now go straight in landfill, and will waste its carbon footprint and now requires a new one to be bought (new carbon footprint) is far worse than shouting an insult at someone (although from a societal point of view, of course, rudeness may be worse).
PS This is not just at Jack, but anyone who deliberately smashes their racket
I agree on the bracket smashes but disagree that its worse than rudeness. Often the people players are being rude to (particularly when it is men to women) is to people like umpires or the ref.
After all, several players have said something to do with killing to umpires.

Anyone smashing brackets deserves all the criticism coming their way