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What do you guys think of Jack's drop shots and the way he runs round his forehand to hit inside out backhands sometimes (esp off a faster service returns I think)? His drops shots seem pretty varied in quality and are generally a fairly good thing I think but I think he'd be better off aiming to get the forehand into play as much as possible off returns. Sometimes he really runs round the backhand to hit some great forehands so why do the opposite ever?

Also I noticed a video on youtube today of him practicing with Cam- no surprise that he would do this but it seems to me that their style is very similar in terms of being lefties with heavy topspin forehand and very flat backhand (though Jack's playing style is more aggressive and probably more powerful?) so Cam would seem to me to be a great person for him to be learning from currently.

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Strange to think of Jack practicing with Cam.

Do hope that's not pre-match practice - the last thing you need is a quirky player who plays your own game. Traditional advice would be that Jack should practice with Andy or any classic R/H double hander (i.e. to be ready for a player like Bonzi, say)

As friends, and to try out new 'lefty' plays, it might be quite fun, though

Good show all round, shame he didn't sneak that first set, might have given a different look to the second....

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Shame. He thought he'd hit an ace 3 times during the first game he was broken - the first two were called out and the third was on bp and i had the sound off and didnt hear what happened - looked like either the umpire or Bonzi gave him the ace after it was called out? Up til then things were marginal. He just never really managed to make much of the Bonzi service games though - getting aced a lot (I looked up and he's only averaged 2.5 aces per set on tour this year but he hit 15 today) and only winning 71 percent off the bonzi 2nd serve til he got broken.

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Coup Droit wrote:

Strange to think of Jack practicing with Cam.

Do hope that's not pre-match practice - the last thing you need is a quirky player who plays your own game. Traditional advice would be that Jack should practice with Andy or any classic R/H double hander (i.e. to be ready for a player like Bonzi, say)

As friends, and to try out new 'lefty' plays, it might be quite fun, though

Good show all round, shame he didn't sneak that first set, might have given a different look to the second....

 It was just one from 3 months ago I happened to stumble accross https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIrak14MWyE&t=67s



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Pity. But looks a pretty good competitive showing which is what we would hope to see if Jack is someone who we think could be top 100 later in the year.

If he's getting there, as the year progresses he will no doubt need to not just be competitive with top 100 players but beat a good proportion of them.

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Fine margins at this level, I'm sure it'll be a learning curve for Jack.

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Looks like Jack + withdrew from doubles semi, not surprised tbh

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Looks like Jack + withdrew from doubles semi, not surprised tbh

Why? Do we think he was injured? 

 

I note that 17 year-old Luca van Assche has had rather a good run here 



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JonH comes home wrote:

Looks like Jack + withdrew from doubles semi, not surprised tbh

Why? Do we think he was injured? 

 

I note that 17 year-old Luca van Assche has had rather a good run here 

 No evidence just think doubles was a side show for him, his focus is singles

so once he was out, felt hed not finish the doubles. 



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JonH comes home wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
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Looks like Jack + withdrew from doubles semi, not surprised tbh

Why? Do we think he was injured? 

 

I note that 17 year-old Luca van Assche has had rather a good run here 

 No evidence just think doubles was a side show for him, his focus is singles

so once he was out, felt hed not finish the doubles. 

 Hope not. Because anyone feeling that way shouldn't be near the doubles draw, don't you think?

Fairer if he was fairly whacked after his singles or had some niggle.



-- Edited by indiana on Friday 11th of February 2022 09:27:06 PM

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indiana wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:

Looks like Jack + withdrew from doubles semi, not surprised tbh

Why? Do we think he was injured? 

 

I note that 17 year-old Luca van Assche has had rather a good run here 

 No evidence just think doubles was a side show for him, his focus is singles

so once he was out, felt hed not finish the doubles. 

 Hope not. Because anyone feeling that way shouldn't be near the doubles draw, don't you think?

Fairer if he was fairly whacked after his singles or had some niggle.



-- Edited by indiana on Friday 11th of February 2022 09:27:06 PM

 Yeah , suspect it was tiredness so he decided to pull 



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SF: Hendrik Jebens & Niklas Shell (GER/GER) CR 900 (439+461) "defeated" Jack Draper & Alexander Ritschard (USA) CR 1022 (555+467) walkover

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