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Ahh. Now it makes sense. I had assumed that it had been added by the journalist/ newspaper editor (in which case it was patronising), not by our own reporter (in which case it is a valuable and valued comment on the state of the newspaper industry).

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Stircrazy wrote:
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I think that the "[sic]" after the tonnes was a little patronising!


 If it's a quote how do they know it's wrong? Clearly it's just hyperbole so whatever measure he used would be acceptable 


I was questioning the spelling, not the actual quotation & its use as an idiomatic expression signifying an extremely large amount/number (more or less equivalent to "loads"), with which I have no problem, so it was the fault of whichever journo wrote that part of the article, not Ryan's for suing the word.  A "tonne", as far as I'm concerned, is a metric unit of weight only.  The imperial "ton", on the other hand, is more versatile.  Apart from being a unit of weight consisting of 20 hundredweight (or eight stones or 2,240 pounds), it does rather lend itself to colloquial hyperbole.  Once upon a time, any self-respecting Brit would automatically have used "tons" (as in "don't worry about the expense, he has tons of cash", "the boss came down on the culprit like a ton of bricks" or "sending you tons of love").  Are cricketers ever said to score tonnes?!!!  I do not think, therefore, that I was being at all patronising.


 I think I was most amazed that someone went through a journos article which was cut and paste and pointed out a spelling mistake!! 

Did you ever work as a sub-editor on a newspaper??! 


Not for a newspaper, no, but before my retirement, I was frequently asked by colleagues who were about submit responses to parliamentary select committee, Treasury, Prudential Regulation Authority or Financial Conduct Authority consultations to proof-read their texts & correct any typos & grammatical errors.  I don't have to work at it.  Spotting such things comes naturally - & it's always easier to spot them in someone else's work.  wink

Incidentally, it wasn't a simple copy & paste job:  Activeboard doesn't like punctuation, e.g. inverted commas, dashes & apostrophes, used in external sites (it substitutes a strange diamond-shaped symbol), so I had to go through the piece to weed them out by previewing the post to tidy it up & I picked up "tonnes" as I was doing that.


 Wow! Chapeau!



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Ahh. Now it makes sense. I had assumed that it had been added by the journalist/ newspaper editor (in which case it was patronising), not by our own reporter (in which case it is a valuable and valued comment on the state of the newspaper industry).


 I had a vision that you had imagined that mid interview, Ryan stopped and spelled out the word "tonnes" which the editor had then pointed out was wrong!!!   



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Jack struggling against Ruusuvuori. One set down and struggling with his service at *2-3.

Ruusuvuori currently more aggressive and hitting the ball flatter. He's got a fighting spirit, though Jack and isn't giving up.

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L16:  (Q) Emil Ruusuvuori (FIN) WR 56 defeated (WC) Jack Draper WR 99 by 6-2 7-6(2)



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Does Jack think he is playing at Roland Garros with the excessive topspin on the forehand and the aversion to leaving the baseline.

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JackDraper Vrs EmilRuusuvuori

After being totally out-played in the first set Jack grit his teeth in the second set and took it to a tie break. A serious rise in class from Mr Draper in this tea time clash against the big serving Fin. 6-2, 7-6.



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Jeff Stelling wrote:

Does Jack think he is playing at Roland Garros with the excessive topspin on the forehand and the aversion to leaving the baseline.


 Exactly what I was thinking

That was SUCH a bad match

Not that he lost - that's fine - Emil has a lovely game on grass

But that Jack was so far back, hitting such a topspin lifted ball, completely useless on grass, AND that he didn't change and at least try something different when he was getting thrashed playing like that 



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Coup Droit wrote:
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Does Jack think he is playing at Roland Garros with the excessive topspin on the forehand and the aversion to leaving the baseline.


 Exactly what I was thinking

That was SUCH a bad match

Not that he lost - that's fine - Emil has a lovely game on grass

But that Jack was so far back, hitting such a topspin lifted ball, completely useless on grass, AND that he didn't change and at least try something different when he was getting thrashed playing like that 


 Ruusuvori was composed and class, on top. Jack was schooled there. Nonetheless , talented 

 

the Northern European countries of Denmark, Norway, Finland have some good players at the moment - Sweden getting left behind !



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Brendan F wrote:
christ wrote:

I think that the "[sic]" after the tonnes was a little patronising!


 If it's a quote how do they know it's wrong? Clearly it's just hyperbole so whatever measure he used would be acceptable 


I dont think the (sic) was referring to metric vs imperial measures, just that the writer had never heard anyone use  ton(ne)s to mean much before.  



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Lee wrote:
Brendan F wrote:
christ wrote:

I think that the "[sic]" after the tonnes was a little patronising!


 If it's a quote how do they know it's wrong? Clearly it's just hyperbole so whatever measure he used would be acceptable 


I dont think the (sic) was referring to metric vs imperial measures, just that the writer had never heard anyone use  ton(ne)s to mean much before.  


Lee, it was Stircrazy that added the '(sic)' and she has explained her reason for doing so above.



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JonH comes home wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
Jeff Stelling wrote:

Does Jack think he is playing at Roland Garros with the excessive topspin on the forehand and the aversion to leaving the baseline.


 Exactly what I was thinking

That was SUCH a bad match

Not that he lost - that's fine - Emil has a lovely game on grass

But that Jack was so far back, hitting such a topspin lifted ball, completely useless on grass, AND that he didn't change and at least try something different when he was getting thrashed playing like that 


 Ruusuvori was composed and class, on top. Jack was schooled there. Nonetheless , talented 

 

the Northern European countries of Denmark, Norway, Finland have some good players at the moment - Sweden getting left behind !


One poster on this forum was insisting five years ago that one or both of the Ymer brothers would win a Slam. I name no names.



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Coup Droit wrote:


Jeff Stelling wrote:


Does Jack think he is playing at Roland Garros with the excessive topspin on the forehand and the aversion to leaving the baseline.


 Exactly what I was thinking

That was SUCH a bad match

Not that he lost - that's fine - Emil has a lovely game on grass

But that Jack was so far back, hitting such a topspin lifted ball, completely useless on grass, AND that he didn't change and at least try something different when he was getting thrashed playing like that 


I have to say that Im kind of happy to hear it seems more of a tactical misjudgment than just not being good enough to match the level as the result kind of surprised me at its one sidedness.  (Id only  seen the result and just a few rallies from the match because Im visiting family near Porto so cant access the beeb as I fully intend to watch a bit of Queens when back) 



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Ryan 3rd on after a noon start today. Im so pleased about his win and also really enjoyed the Times report - thanks for that SC! Ive watch bits of Ryans challenger matches Ive the last year or two and my early impression of his game (without much actual analysis, more based just on comparison with Jack in a match they played) was that he was a very good returner and solid whilst off the ground not so powerful, but that his serve was comparatively weak. I figured that if he could improve his serve hed be good on grass. What has he been improving to get so much better results? It seems from stats etc that, whilst not fast, his serve was good against Ruud.

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First set Peniston with a bagel

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