Week 24 - ATP Challenger 125 - Ilkley Trophy - Ilkley, Great Britain (grass)

emmsie69 · Top national player

RE: Week 24 - ATP Challenger 125 - Ilkley Trophy - Ilkley, Great Britain (grass)

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

emmsie69 wrote:
Priesty wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
marvellous for Charlie, but wonder if Simon is not fit, given that scoreline?

And Dan Cox's win is definitely a win we will take, in our wins competition, Jaggy will be pleased to here
Gilles Simon said in his Roland Garros interviews that he routinely has to take 6 paracetemols and 4 iboprufen before each and every match. It's long-term chronic pain. They want to prescribe morphine but can't. My take - the obvious take - is Gilles, stop ! Go home ! Hang up your racket ! But for some reason he hasn't quite yet .....
But all credit to Charlie - given Gilles' issues this was always a very decent opportunity for an upset but when the pills work, he can still play some excellent tennis so he still needed beating
I was sure I heard during French Open commentary that, like Tsonga, Gilles was hanging up his racket after that tournament?
I missed this, one of my favourites. Glad I made the effort to watch his Wimbledon match last year

There was quite an emotional send off at

RG when he played his last match with an on court presentation. Worth looking up the video if youre a fan.

the French era of Tsonga, Simon, and also Monfils and Gasquet is drawing to a close really, latter two Im sure will retire as well in the next year or so. All great players, theyve done France proud although never quite able to take the top prizes in the sport; but a great and memorable Davis Cup team.

emmsie69 · Top national player

That'll teach me for not being interested in the FO, my least favourite slam

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

emmsie69 wrote:
That'll teach me for not being interested in the FO, my least favourite slam

Presumably that feeling applies to clay courts as a whole?!

I have to say, clay also does the least for me, try as I might. Grass, however. Heaven.

indiana · Tennis legend

You can certainly get some great matches on clay and some gawd awful matches on grass, and in each case often because of the combination of the surface and the players involved.

Very different but, taking out the home element, for me each just about as interesting.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
You can certainly get some great matches on clay and some gawd awful matches on grass, and in each case often because of the combination of the surface and the players involved.

Very different but, taking out the home element, for me each just about as interesting.

Purely visually, I love both grass and clay (but not hard)

The organic nature of red clay and grass means it's not uniform, it looks natural (coz it is, duh), and both the orange and the green look lovely against the ball.

Hard courts looks very antiseptic and artificial, a flat colour, and sometimes the colour schemes they have are god awful.

As to the tennis, well, as Indy says, that's really variable - I think grass can be the worst - some of the serve-fests are SO dull (as are some of the slug-fests on clay but at least you see some tennis). But also some of the best too. And, yes, the players who are really out of their comfort zone are more amusing on grass than clay.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
QR1: (qWC) Daniel Cox WR 554 defeated (q4) Geoffrey Blancaneaux (FRA) WR 181 by 3-6 6-6 retired
A win's a win. We'll take that!

Just to elaborate and give the full score, having watched the last 10 mins, Blancaneaux actually retired at 1-6 down in the second set tiebreak - I'm not sure how you even write that

Flippin' unbelievable. He seemed to have a bad back, looked rather stiff, but - having seen it from 5-5 in the second - he was still playing OK and nothing major happened. But he played a rather poor tie-break, and obviously couldn't be a*sed to play the final (probably) point of the tiebreak and so just quit at 1-6

Didn't shake Dan's hand either. No idea what had happened (if anything). But all rather weird. Dan Cox was talking to the umpire for quite a while at the end too, after the Frenchman left, but audio didn't pick it up

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Monday 13th of June 2022 09:08:05 AM

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
QR1: (qWC) Daniel Cox WR 554 defeated (q4) Geoffrey Blancaneaux (FRA) WR 181 by 3-6 6-6 retired
A win's a win. We'll take that!
Just to elaborate and give the full score, having watched the last 10 mins, Blancaneaux actually retired at 1-6 down in the second set tiebreak - I'm not sure how you even write that

Because that's how it's showing on the ATP site.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
QR1: (qWC) Daniel Cox WR 554 defeated (q4) Geoffrey Blancaneaux (FRA) WR 181 by 3-6 6-6 retired
A win's a win. We'll take that!
Just to elaborate and give the full score, having watched the last 10 mins, Blancaneaux actually retired at 1-6 down in the second set tiebreak - I'm not sure how you even write that
Because that's how it's showing on the ATP site.

I know - that's my point - even they don't know how to write it properly, as it doesn't give the proper score

christ · Futures level

Stircrazy wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
QR1: (qWC) Daniel Cox WR 554 defeated (q4) Geoffrey Blancaneaux (FRA) WR 181 by 3-6 6-6 retired
A win's a win. We'll take that!
Just to elaborate and give the full score, having watched the last 10 mins, Blancaneaux actually retired at 1-6 down in the second set tiebreak - I'm not sure how you even write that
Because that's how it's showing on the ATP site.

A misunderstanding, I think, of the "you" in that sentence. I don't believe that your writing of the score was being questioned, but the question was: how would "one" write "retired at 1-6 down in the second set tiebreak" if one were being precise. (3-6 6-6(1-6) ret'd, maybe)

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Yes, not meant personally about score reporting

And I realise that when a person retires at 15-30, say, in a game, then the 15-30 is not reported.

My point was that the ATP reporting it as 6-6 - even if correct - doesn't reflect what went on in that match - which was really strange as I've never seen anyone retire at 1-6 down in a tie-break, for an injury that wasn't acute, and then not shake hands

Meanwhile, our Charlie B is doing very well - a double break up - and serving for the set at 5-2

seagull · Hall of fame

Not sure what happened but Charlie went from 5-2 to 5-6, and has just saved a set point.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

seagull wrote:
Not sure what happened but Charlie went from 5-2 to 5-6, and has just saved a set point.

What happened is that Charlie is going to want to stick his head down the toilet and flush it 20 times

He was absolutely cruising at 5-2 and serving. Completely upper hand. Had at least two SPs where he had the point, short ball, just to put away, or bunt over short at an angle, to be honest, as Jung was so far back. And muffed both.

BUT he hung in - and with a pretty poor tie-break from both of them - somehow managed to take the tie-break (Jung VERY upset about one call)

So first set to Charlie - just about.....

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

And having led 5-1 in the second set, Charlie is now back on serve at 5-4*

:(

seagull · Hall of fame

Oh my God he is doing it again. 5-2 up and now 5-4