Week 34 - ITF W25 - Roehampton, Great Britain Hard

emmsie69 · Top national player

RE: Week 34 - ITF W25 - Roehampton, Great Britain Hard

the addict · Tennis legend

Peter too wrote:
Maia was the top seed but she eventually lost out to Angelica in three. Angelica has no WTA ranking and only a 1022 ITF ranking while Maia has a WTA 538 ranking. That suggests that Angelica's ranking is likely to climb significantly over the coming months. There was a three year gap in Angelica's results, so I assume she was at Uni somewhere.

Angelica is at Stanford, and has completed three years there. In her Junior year she partnered Emily Arbuthnott as Stanford's No 1 doubles pairing and won the ITA Northwest Regional Championship doubles.

Edit to add:- See the following link for more details

https://gostanford.com/sports/womens-tennis/roster/angelica-blake/19450

-- Edited by the addict on Sunday 21st of August 2022 03:16:02 PM

Lambda · Challenger level

Coup Droit wrote:

I'm pretty useless at all this but, Lambda, it says in the ITF rules:

3. Age Eligibility Rules

The WTAs Age Eligibility Rule (AER) applies to all WTA ranking point Tournaments which offer

$15,000 or greater in prize money. In the case of inconsistency between the WTAs AER and these

Regulations, the former shall apply. Players aged 17 and under are subject to the WTAs AER and are

restricted in the number and category of Wild Cards they may receive and the number and category

of Tournaments they can play. Please refer to Appendix C for details

So that says '17 and under' are bound by the age rules, so turning 17 wouldn't make any difference, no?

Yes, at 17is still subject to AER, but at 17 can accept WTA and ITF calendar year WC maximums, i.e. She's not limited by her age to what WCs she can accept.

RE the wider conversation, the AER definition of participating in a tournament

Competition in a Professional Tennis Tournament
For the purposes of this Rule, competition in a Professional
Tennis Tournament is defined as participation in the singles or
doubles Main Draw or Qualifying Draw of any Tournament at
which a player earns WTA ranking points (singles or doubles) or,
but for the operation of the WTA Rules or the player's violation
of the WTA Rules, would have earned WTA ranking points.

Participation in a Professional Tennis Tournament counts toward
a player's AER Tournament Allotment. If a player participates in
the Qualifying Draw and qualifies for the Main Draw, it will count
as only one (1) Tournament. Similarly, if a player is competing in
both the singles and doubles draws, it will count as only one (1)
Tournament.

Competition in a Professional Tennis Tournament under the AER
does not include: (i) participation in the draws of the Women's
ITF World Tennis Tour events in which a player does not earn
WTA ranking points; (ii) participation in the draws of Women's
ITF World Tennis Tour W15 events before August 5, 2019; or (iii)
receiving a zero (0) ranking point result for not participating in a
Grand Slam or Commitment Tournament.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Thanks, Lambda

So, assuming that Ranah has used up her three wildcards, and the onus is on her, what happens if she accepts a wildcard and plays here (by mistake, obviously)?

Do the points and money get taken away? Is there any penalty?

Peter too · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
Thanks, Lambda

So, assuming that Ranah has used up her three wildcards, and the onus is on her, what happens if she accepts a wildcard and plays here (by mistake, obviously)?

Do the points and money get taken away? Is there any penalty?

I seem to remember Tara Moore falling foul of the WC rules once when she accepted a WC to Wimbledon doubles and lost points as a result.

Peter too · Tennis legend

Q1: BLAKE, Angelica (GBR) UNR def LUMSDEN, Maia (GBR) (1) 538 7-6(3) 3-6 [10-7]
Q1: TATU, Sarah (GBR) WC UNR lost to LUKOSIUTE, Andre (LTU) (14) 954 6-7(3) 2-6
Q1: BLACK, Brooke (GBR) UNR lost to XUN, Fang Ying (CHN) (2) 592 1-6 1-6
Q1: GILLAN, Alice (GBR) (10) 818 def POPESCU, Alessia (ROU) UNR 6-2 6-0
Q1: GREATOREX, Adeola (GBR) WC UNR lost to KAJI, Haruka (JPN) (3) 599 3-6 0-6
Q1: PEARCE, Erin (GBR) WC UNR lost to BAHARMUS, Humera (IND) (12) 900 0-6 4-6
Q1: COHEN, Emma (GBR) WC UNR lost to AYUKAWA, Mana (JPN) (4) 602 3-6 1-6
Q1: BISHOP, Lauren (GBR) UNR lost to PROCTOR, Lauren (USA) (9) 801 0-6 2-6
Q1: FRANCHI, Francesca (GBR) UNR lost to PULCHARTOVA, Laetitia (CZE) (5) 730 2-6 6-7(6)
Q1: DALEY, Danielle (GBR) (16) 1186 def DAVIS, Francesca (GBR) UNR 6-0 6-0
Q1: POPESCU, Anna (GBR) 1502 lost to STRESNAKOVA, Katarina (SVK) (6) 733 2-6 2-6
Q1: WILSON, Emma (GBR) (13) 919 def MATOS SEQUEIRA FERNANDES, Jizel (GBR) UNR 6-2 6-2
Q1: MATTHEWS, Jessica (GBR) UNR lost to SZOSTAK, Marine (FRA) (7) 768 0-6 3-6
Q1: LAMMAS, Annabelle (GBR) UNR lost to DAGAN FRUCHTMAN, Mika (ISR) (11) 890 2-6 0-6
Q1: BROOKS, Amelie (GBR) WC UNR lost to SHIMIZU, Eri (JPN) (8) 799 2-6 1-6
Q1: DUNNE, Katy (GBR) (15) 1002 def YARDLEY, Summer (GBR) UNR 6-1 6-2

Q2: BLAKE, Angelica (GBR) UNR =CH v LUKOSIUTE, Andre (LTU) (14) 954 (CH=950 2022)

Q2: GILLAN, Alice (GBR) (10) 818 (CH=685 2019) v XUN, Fang Ying (CHN) (2) 592 (CH=167 2020)

Q2: DALEY, Danielle (GBR) (16) 1186 (CH=1179 2022) v PULCHARTOVA, Laetitia (CZE) (5) 730 (CH=706 2022)

Q2: WILSON, Emma (GBR) (13) 919 =CH v STRESNAKOVA, Katarina (SVK) (6) 733 =CH

Q2: DUNNE, Katy (GBR) (15) 1002 (CH=212 2018) v SHIMIZU, Eri (JPN) (8) 799 (CH=709 2021)

-- Edited by Peter too on Sunday 21st of August 2022 04:31:41 PM

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Excellent win for Alice G

FQR: GILLAN, Alice (GBR) (10) 818 (CH=685 2019) def. XUN, Fang Ying (CHN) (2) 592 (CH=167 2020) 6-4 3-6 10-7

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

And another excellent win for team GB

FQR: BLAKE, Angelica (GBR) UNR def. LUKOSIUTE, Andre (LTU) (14) 954 6-4 6-3

telstar · Strong Club Player

Coup Droit wrote:
And another excellent win for team GB

FQR: BLAKE, Angelica (GBR) UNR def. LUKOSIUTE, Andre (LTU) (14) 954 6-4 6-3

I guess, strictly speaking, you are correct. I'm not sure, however that a victory for a US born player (who lived in GB between the ages of 5 and 8) and has played almost all her tennis in US over a Lithuanian born player who learned her tennis and has played all her tennis in UK is really a victory for Team GB!

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

I take your point, and I love how cosmopolitan our country is (and many other countries too) - a big melting pot...

But, for me, anyone who plays under a GB flag is part of team GB

I agree that it's not a victory for the LTA, or a victory for the GB tennis system, or anything like that...

But the team is the team - those with the Union Jack on their shirts, so to speak, no questions asked.....

Spireman · Club Coach

Perhaps one or both of her parents are from the UK? The flag for tennis terms sometimes seems ill-defined: do players decide themselves which country to register under with the ITF ? I can see then that individual federations such as LTA then decide themselves whether to help players out with WC, support etc.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Just me, but I don't care where the parents are from either

Emma has a Romanian dad and a Chinese mum

The only players I have a little trouble with are those who blatantly nationality shop and hop around.

I find it slightly difficult to support Naiktha, for instance, as much as the others, when she's British, then decides to be Aussie, because of circumstances, then it doesn't work out and comes back to being GB. Izzy Wallace fell into the same group, just vice versa.

Again, no problem in theory - it's a hard life as a pro tennis player and I completely understand trying everything to maximise your chances. But I find it sticks in my throat slightly.

And I do have a soft spot for all GB-based non-GB players, or those who've married Brits, or whatever - I feel they're like GB in-laws - and Andre is definitely part of those

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Katy makes it three out of three so far:

FQR: DUNNE, Katy (GBR) (15) 1002 (CH=212 2018) def. SHIMIZU, Eri (JPN) (8) 799 (CH=709 2021) 6-4 6-4

Christine · Intermediate Club Player

Coup Droit wrote:
Katy makes it three out of three so far:

FQR: DUNNE, Katy (GBR) (15) 1002 (CH=212 2018) def. SHIMIZU, Eri (JPN) (8) 799 (CH=709 2021) 6-4 6-4

So good to see Katy playing again - and winning smile

Dannythomas · Lower Club Player

telstar wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
And another excellent win for team GB

FQR: BLAKE, Angelica (GBR) UNR def. LUKOSIUTE, Andre (LTU) (14) 954 6-4 6-3
I guess, strictly speaking, you are correct. I'm not sure, however that a victory for a US born player (who lived in GB between the ages of 5 and 8) and has played almost all her tennis in US over a Lithuanian born player who learned her tennis and has played all her tennis in UK is really a victory for Team GB!

Both of Angelicas parents are British and she has spent a lot of her life in the UK . More than just the 2 years in the Stanford post . Obviously not possible to be based here when she goes to university in the US .

-- Edited by Dannythomas on Monday 22nd of August 2022 02:59:56 PM