L16: (4) Pierre Delage & Louis Dussin (FRA/FRA) CR 2216 (849+1367) vs Sean Hodkin & Adam Jones CR 3147 (1431+1716)
L16: James Markiewicz & Michael Shaw UNR (1343+0) vs (WC) Shiva Swaroop Jayagopi & Matthieu Richerd (IND/FRA) UNR L16: Hervé Antchandie & Mikalai Haliak (FRA/***) UNR (0+714) vs (2) Ben Jones & Joshua Paris CR 831 (323+508)
Ben Jones and Josh Paris won, 6-1 6-3
SC, I completely 100% support everyone doing their draws, and results, and whatever in the format that they like - if others like it differently, let them do theirs differently
But, because we've 'known' each other a long time, I just thought I'd put it out there:
You like to put the players in order as per the draw
BUT a draw is formatted around a horizontal axis
So a 16-slot draw has a top eight and a bottom eight, not a straight list of 16
So in a text version the top half should be read as upper player v lower player
But the bottom half is lower player v upper player
This is why you can never have the second seeds listed as second, as per with Ben and Josh
Reading it as per the draw, Ben & Josh should be first as they are in the bottom half so it's lower player first - which makes sense as then all your seeds come first, which makes it consistent
(PS this has nothing to do with listing GB players first or not - just how a draw is formatted and hence the logic of how the text version is written)
Again, this is NOT a complaint or anything, just a comment on something, just possibly, that hadn't been considered....
Coup Droit wrote:SC, I completely 100% support everyone doing their draws, and results, and whatever in the format that they like - if others like it differently, let them do theirs differently
But, because we've 'known' each other a long time, I just thought I'd put it out there:
You like to put the players in order as per the draw
BUT a draw is formatted around a horizontal axis
So a 16-slot draw has a top eight and a bottom eight, not a straight list of 16
So in a text version the top half should be read as upper player v lower player
But the bottom half is lower player v upper player
This is why you can never have the second seeds listed as second, as per with Ben and Josh
Reading it as per the draw, Ben & Josh should be first as they are in the bottom half so it's lower player first - which makes sense as then all your seeds come first, which makes it consistent
(PS this has nothing to do with listing GB players first or not - just how a draw is formatted and hence the logic of how the text version is written)
Again, this is NOT a complaint or anything, just a comment on something, just possibly, that hadn't been considered....
Coup Droit wrote:SC, I completely 100% support everyone doing their draws, and results, and whatever in the format that they like - if others like it differently, let them do theirs differently
But, because we've 'known' each other a long time, I just thought I'd put it out there:
You like to put the players in order as per the draw
BUT a draw is formatted around a horizontal axis
So a 16-slot draw has a top eight and a bottom eight, not a straight list of 16
So in a text version the top half should be read as upper player v lower player
But the bottom half is lower player v upper player
This is why you can never have the second seeds listed as second, as per with Ben and Josh
Reading it as per the draw, Ben & Josh should be first as they are in the bottom half so it's lower player first - which makes sense as then all your seeds come first, which makes it consistent
(PS this has nothing to do with listing GB players first or not - just how a draw is formatted and hence the logic of how the text version is written)
Again, this is NOT a complaint or anything, just a comment on something, just possibly, that hadn't been considered....
Sorry, but you've lost me completely!
Sorry, SC - and it's not really important
Just that for a correct text version of a tennis draw, when there are pairs of players, the top half should be written as player on the upper line v player on the lower line whereas the bottom half of the draw should be bottom line player v player on the line above
Or in terms of numbers:
For a 8 player draw it's:
1 v 2
3 v 4
6 v 5
8 v 7
Hence, the top seed is 1 - he gets listed first
the second seed is 8 - he also gets listed first
As the two halves are a mirror image, with a horizontal axis
UNLIKE if you do them just as a list where you get
1 v 2
3 v 4
5 v 6
7 v 8
which results in the top seeds being listed first in their pair but the second seeds getting listed second in their pairing
But, again, not important.....
-- Edited by Coup Droit on Tuesday 13th of September 2022 11:14:59 AM
SF: (3) Constantin Bittoun Kouzmine & Maxence Broville (FRA/FRA) CR 1538 (469+1069) defeated (2) Ben Jones & Joshua Paris CR 831 (323+508) by 7-6(5) 6-3