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JonH comes home wrote:

It is rare for a lucky loser to win an ATP or WTA tournament; Heinz Gunthardt did it in 1978 (at Springfield), Bill Scanlon in 1978 (at Maui),[1] Francisco Clavet in 1990 in Hilversum, Christian Miniussi in 1991 in São Paulo, Sergiy Stakhovsky in 2008 in Zagreb, Rajeev Ram in 2009 in Newport, Andrey Rublev in 2017 in Umag, Leonardo Mayer in the following week in 2017 in Hamburg and Marco Cecchinato at the Hungarian Open in 2018.[2] In total, nine men have done it since 1978.[3] Three men's doubles teams have won a tournament as lucky losers.[4]

In March 1980, Kay McDaniel won a WTA minor league title in Atlanta as a lucky loser,[5] but the WTA recognizes Andrea Jaeger as the first lucky loser to win a WTA title, in Las Vegas in 1980.[6] Olga Danilovi won a WTA event as a lucky loser in Moscow in 2018, where some sources have claimed she is the first women to win a main tour WTA singles title as a lucky loser.[7] In October 2019, Coco Gauff defeated Jeena Ostapenko 6-3, 1-6, 6-2 at the Upper Austria Ladies Linz tournament in Austria at the age of 15 to become the third woman to accomplish the feat.[8]

Vitalia Diatchenko joined the list of such winners when triumphing in the inaugural WTA 125K series tournament in Angers in 2021, although this is not regarded as a full WTA title. Not only did she win the title as a Lucky Loser, but she came back from a set and 0-4 down in the second round to defeat Daniela Vismane, the player who had beaten her in the final qualifying round.[9]

Lucky losers who have reached the finals of a tennis tournament and lost include Andreas Haider-Maurer, who reached the final in 2010 Vienna before losing to top-seeded Jürgen Melzer, Marcel Granollers who lost against David Ferrer in 2010 Valencia, and Pablo Cuevas, beaten in the 2019 Estoril Open final by Stefanos Tsitsipas. Cuevas had lost to Salvatore Caruso in the second round of qualifying, but beat him when they met again in the first round proper. On the women's side, Melinda Czink reached the final of the 2005 Canberra International but lost to Ana Ivanovic, who had also defeated Czink in the final round of qualifying.[10] In 2012, Coco Vandeweghe finished runner-up to Serena Williams at the Bank of the West Classic in Stanford.


 Wow, such knowledge, Jon 



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indiana wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:

It is rare for a lucky loser to win an ATP or WTA tournament; Heinz Gunthardt did it in 1978 (at Springfield), Bill Scanlon in 1978 (at Maui),[1] Francisco Clavet in 1990 in Hilversum, Christian Miniussi in 1991 in São Paulo, Sergiy Stakhovsky in 2008 in Zagreb, Rajeev Ram in 2009 in Newport, Andrey Rublev in 2017 in Umag, Leonardo Mayer in the following week in 2017 in Hamburg and Marco Cecchinato at the Hungarian Open in 2018.[2] In total, nine men have done it since 1978.[3] Three men's doubles teams have won a tournament as lucky losers.[4]

In March 1980, Kay McDaniel won a WTA minor league title in Atlanta as a lucky loser,[5] but the WTA recognizes Andrea Jaeger as the first lucky loser to win a WTA title, in Las Vegas in 1980.[6] Olga Danilovi won a WTA event as a lucky loser in Moscow in 2018, where some sources have claimed she is the first women to win a main tour WTA singles title as a lucky loser.[7] In October 2019, Coco Gauff defeated Jeena Ostapenko 6-3, 1-6, 6-2 at the Upper Austria Ladies Linz tournament in Austria at the age of 15 to become the third woman to accomplish the feat.[8]

Vitalia Diatchenko joined the list of such winners when triumphing in the inaugural WTA 125K series tournament in Angers in 2021, although this is not regarded as a full WTA title. Not only did she win the title as a Lucky Loser, but she came back from a set and 0-4 down in the second round to defeat Daniela Vismane, the player who had beaten her in the final qualifying round.[9]

Lucky losers who have reached the finals of a tennis tournament and lost include Andreas Haider-Maurer, who reached the final in 2010 Vienna before losing to top-seeded Jürgen Melzer, Marcel Granollers who lost against David Ferrer in 2010 Valencia, and Pablo Cuevas, beaten in the 2019 Estoril Open final by Stefanos Tsitsipas. Cuevas had lost to Salvatore Caruso in the second round of qualifying, but beat him when they met again in the first round proper. On the women's side, Melinda Czink reached the final of the 2005 Canberra International but lost to Ana Ivanovic, who had also defeated Czink in the final round of qualifying.[10] In 2012, Coco Vandeweghe finished runner-up to Serena Williams at the Bank of the West Classic in Stanford.


 Wow, such knowledge, Jon 


 Yep, I like to keep it quiet but heh. 

wiki is great isnt it?! 



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JonH, Did you use an AI app to put that together?  

I have been astonished how an app can write a decent article on the most esoteric of subjects. Writing your super well informed paragraphs would have taken at least an hour of research otherwise. We shall all be redundant soon!

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Anyway, I'm no fan of this LL just now. Jack needs to seriously raise his game and dispatch the guy.

He's already going to have been on court today a heck of a lot longer than he needs to be at this time.

6-7(6),*3-4

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stevemcqueen wrote:

JonH, Did you use an AI app to put that together?  

I have been astonished how an app can write a decent article on the most esoteric of subjects. Writing your super well informed paragraphs would have taken at least an hour of research otherwise. We shall all be redundant soon!

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 On this occasion it was taken directly from wiki 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_loser

 

I mentioned it in the next post but should have referenced it! Anyway - no glory and no AI. Although I used the AI tool with my son last week and it wrote an amazing article on the role of a procurement function in times of inflationary pressures - indeed, we will no longer be needed in future times. Scary. 



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JonH comes home wrote:

Presumably Neal and Wes retain top seeding for the AO though


Indeed, since the seedings will be based on the rankings at the beginning of this week.

Not that it makes any difference to each pair's possible draw. 



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Pablo Cuevas almost did the feat, beating the player he lost to in qualies but ended up losing in the final of the Canberra ATP event in 2005.

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Great second set TB from Draper

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I'm usually very much focus on the tournament you're in currently but not going to lie, with Nadal in 1st round on Monday, I was definitely in camp let this one go, particularly as it's quite a gruelling match. Oh well, best go on and win it now Jack

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I'm usually very much focus on the tournament you're in currently but not going to lie, with Nadal in 1st round on Monday, I was definitely in camp let this one go, particularly as it's quite a gruelling match. Oh well, best go on and win it now Jack


Yes, I was thinking exactly the same as the second set continued on through to another TB.

Was thinking - good week, take lessons from not such a good day, and prepare for the Aus Open.



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Oh I pretended to do some work for 10mins and now hes break down.


Disagree about AO prep, I know Rafa in bad form but Draper still likely to lose so makes sense to put all his effort into getting his first ATP title and get that monkey off his back

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Kwon wont go away will he. Up 4-3 with a break, match is 2 hours 40 now

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Dang. On to Melbourne

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Oh well. Maybe no bad thing. I'm sure Jack will be happy to leave this tournament and travel to Melbourne and get settled there. More especially since he is playng on Monday. Infact I think it's good, but I hope that this loss doesn't reflect any factor like illness or injury. He certainly was very grumpy at times in the match.

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For the record:

SF:  (LL) Kwon Soonwoo (KOR) WR 84 defeated Jack Draper WR 40 by 7-6(6) 6-7(2) 6-3  cry



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