Weeks 12 & 13 - ATP Masters 1000 - Itau Open - Miami, FL, USA

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

RE: Weeks 12 & 13 - ATP Masters 1000 - Itau Open - Miami, FL, USA

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Alcaraz got to number one this week of course and straightaway is down to live 2 with Miami points coming off. Needs to get straight back on the horse!

Djokovic and Alcaraz both have almost exactly the same points coming off over the clay, similar records last year, and then Djokovic has the grass in his sights to maybe build a lead over the Spanish number one.

Nadal of course outside the top 10 now, although his Wimbledon semi points leave an asterisk on that, like for Cam. Cam really should be top 10 and his live 5 in the race says more about his general standing right now.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Andy and Kyle in action around 6-6.30 PM GMT today - Andy on centre court.

indiana · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
Bob in Spain wrote:
Kyle's guaranteed 10 points takes him to 508 in the live rankings.
Just mentioning for a friend

Yes, if he'd managed to take to the court in IW and manages to do so here, he would have been entering the top 500 Though I would rather see him actually win a match somewhere quite soon.

indiana · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
Alcaraz got to number one this week of course and straightaway is down to live 2 with Miami points coming off. Needs to get straight back on the horse!

Djokovic and Alcaraz both have almost exactly the same points coming off over the clay, similar records last year, and then Djokovic has the grass in his sights to maybe build a lead over the Spanish number one.

Nadal of course outside the top 10 now, although his Wimbledon semi points leave an asterisk on that, like for Cam. Cam really should be top 10 and his live 5 in the race says more about his general standing right now.

It's all so messy at the moment though, with Djokovic's ban issues, Alcaraz's injury absence, and no Wimbledon points last year.

I'd say that in tennis terms Djokovic has never been usurped by Alcaraz ( or Medvedev previously ) as the real #1.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Well, there's a few rubbish shots here and there but Kyle is hitting some good ball out there - it's great to see him at least on the court

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

And Andy is struggling ..... lost the first set 4-6

(Don't cry, Judy ! In fact, do you think she thinks: ok, just lose the next set, Andy, I'm so DONE with three-setters)

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Wednesday 22nd of March 2023 09:26:44 PM

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

POOR Kyle - he'd done all the hard work, scrapped back, was 30-0 up at 5-6. Got dragged to the net unwillingly and left a ball that landed miles in. And then was so cross with himself for leaving it, he sort of went to pieces.

Lost the set 7-5

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

L96: Dusan Lajovic (SRB) WR 76 defeated Andy Murray WR 52 by 4 & 5 cry

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

L96: Wu Yibing (CHN) WR 64 defeated (PR) Kyle Edmund WR 544 by 5 & 5 hmm

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Not feeling any better!

Shhh · Challenger level

Coup Droit wrote:
POOR Kyle - he'd done all the hard work, scrapped back, was 30-0 up at 5-6. Got dragged to the net unwillingly and left a ball that landed miles in. And then was so cross with himself for leaving it, he sort of went to pieces.

Lost the set 7-5

I only saw the end as was watching Andy but, you could see Kyles talent but he looked very unfit. I can't see whats to be gained by coming in at a Slam or Masters, surely he would benfit by dropping down and getting some matches under his belt regardless of the level?

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Shhh wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
POOR Kyle - he'd done all the hard work, scrapped back, was 30-0 up at 5-6. Got dragged to the net unwillingly and left a ball that landed miles in. And then was so cross with himself for leaving it, he sort of went to pieces.

Lost the set 7-5

I only saw the end as was watching Andy but, you could see Kyles talent but he looked very unfit. I can't see whats to be gained by coming in at a Slam or Masters, surely he would benfit by dropping down and getting some matches under his belt regardless of the level?

To be fair, he was always a bit flat-footed, even at his peak. He ran down some excellent balls, and moves fine once he gets going, but he's not dynamic.

But yes, I agree, I think some lower level events would be good. But I guess he's got his PRs to use - I don't know the exact rules for how long they last, how other events affects them etc.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
Shhh wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
POOR Kyle - he'd done all the hard work, scrapped back, was 30-0 up at 5-6. Got dragged to the net unwillingly and left a ball that landed miles in. And then was so cross with himself for leaving it, he sort of went to pieces.

Lost the set 7-5

I only saw the end as was watching Andy but, you could see Kyles talent but he looked very unfit. I can't see whats to be gained by coming in at a Slam or Masters, surely he would benfit by dropping down and getting some matches under his belt regardless of the level?
To be fair, he was always a bit flat-footed, even at his peak. He ran down some excellent balls, and moves fine once he gets going, but he's not dynamic.
But yes, I agree, I think some lower level events would be good. But I guess he's got his PRs to use - I don't know the exact rules for how long they last, how other events affects them etc.

First two weeks in April , hes entered various European challengers like Murcia/Barletta and then Leon and others - but hes not used a PR and is some way off entry. Week of 19 April, he is into Munich ATP 250 using his PR.

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
Shhh wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
POOR Kyle - he'd done all the hard work, scrapped back, was 30-0 up at 5-6. Got dragged to the net unwillingly and left a ball that landed miles in. And then was so cross with himself for leaving it, he sort of went to pieces.

Lost the set 7-5

I only saw the end as was watching Andy but, you could see Kyles talent but he looked very unfit. I can't see whats to be gained by coming in at a Slam or Masters, surely he would benfit by dropping down and getting some matches under his belt regardless of the level?
To be fair, he was always a bit flat-footed, even at his peak. He ran down some excellent balls, and moves fine once he gets going, but he's not dynamic.
But yes, I agree, I think some lower level events would be good. But I guess he's got his PRs to use - I don't know the exact rules for how long they last, how other events affects them etc.
First two weeks in April , hes entered various European challengers like Murcia/Barletta and then Leon and others - but hes not used a PR and is some way off entry. Week of 19 April, he is into Munich ATP 250 using his PR.

Murcia ? smile smile