Weeks 27 & 28 - The Championships, Wimbledon (grass) - main draw

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

Weeks 27 & 28 - The Championships, Wimbledon (grass) - main draw

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

If all the courts from 2 onwards are starting at 11 I see no reason at all why court one should be 1 pm and centre 1.30. If it is argued they need to allow people to arrive, from up North or wherever, get an earlier train! Should all be 11am start or 12 noon latest.

As for a curfew, I reckon tennis has been played there longer than any resident has lived there. They should have a rule to not start a new match later than a certain time but they should certainly let any match in play get finished

emmsie69 · Top national player

Densher wrote:
One of the disappointments of London is that isn't really a late night city like New York (I had a flavour of this recently when I stayed in Pimlico, right in the centre of the city, and found the local Tesco Express was only open until 10pm and all kinds of other shops and many of the takeaways shut their doors at 11pm).

So in that context the continued existence of the curfew at Wimbledon is not a surprise, which is a real shame given the sudden interruption to the drama of the match (as CD says, what is the harm in allowing it to run on a little longer?). You'd hope someday it might change but I'm not counting on it.

-- Edited by Densher on Thursday 6th of July 2023 10:34:05 PM

And if does change people will have to work those hours. Having had to work nights it's horrible and should be done out of necessity, not convenience for others needs. Playing late into the night means a lot of the staff at Wimbledon have to stay on until the finish (on minimum wage) Atleast at the moment they know they will finish before midnight and b able to get home.

ETA It's actually quite funny that so many people on this forum claim to be left wing but as soon as the Tennis is affected there is no thought for the staff there!!

-- Edited by emmsie69 on Friday 7th of July 2023 06:01:12 AM

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

nicofrance wrote:
Cant see Murray coming back here . A horrible draw given who he could have played .

I have to say, that when you first wrote this, I would probably have agreed with you.

Shhh · Challenger level

Jaggy1876 wrote:
The problem is give and take is something The All England Club dont engage in. Another example of for the few not the many. Majority of the public are asking why do they not start earlier as tomorrow will also be tight. We know the reasons of course, its so all the Toffs can gets their lunches and all the other trimmings of exuberance. And of course middle class England couldnt possibly allow the little people to still be shuffling through their subarb after 11pm as Tarquin and Penelope are up early in the morning for their trombone lessons and such noise will disrupt their sleep.

Tim nice but dim also needs to make up his mind about the roof. One minute hes saying its an outdoor tournament next its the roof will be closed.

We are way behind the Aussies and Americans in how to deal with these things but its Wimbledon and the prestige and heritage blah blah blah etc.

The later Centre Court start is to satisfy TV requests. You are probably happier living in your world of bitterness though smile

KK · Club Coach

JonH comes home wrote:
If all the courts from 2 onwards are starting at 11 I see no reason at all why court one should be 1 pm and centre 1.30. If it is argued they need to allow people to arrive, from up North or wherever, get an earlier train! Should all be 11am start or 12 noon latest.

As for a curfew, I reckon tennis has been played there longer than any resident has lived there. They should have a rule to not start a new match later than a certain time but they should certainly let any match in play get finished

Except unlike the pub example there was no late night tennis when people moved there.

KK · Club Coach

Shhh wrote:
Jaggy1876 wrote:
The problem is give and take is something The All England Club dont engage in. Another example of for the few not the many. Majority of the public are asking why do they not start earlier as tomorrow will also be tight. We know the reasons of course, its so all the Toffs can gets their lunches and all the other trimmings of exuberance. And of course middle class England couldnt possibly allow the little people to still be shuffling through their subarb after 11pm as Tarquin and Penelope are up early in the morning for their trombone lessons and such noise will disrupt their sleep.

Tim nice but dim also needs to make up his mind about the roof. One minute hes saying its an outdoor tournament next its the roof will be closed.

We are way behind the Aussies and Americans in how to deal with these things but its Wimbledon and the prestige and heritage blah blah blah etc.

The later Centre Court start is to satisfy TV requests. You are probably happier living in your world of bitterness though

I dont know Wimbledon but I dont suppose it just has middle class people. It will also have people, whatever their class who have to work the next day.

KK · Club Coach

emmsie69 wrote:
Densher wrote:
One of the disappointments of London is that isn't really a late night city like New York (I had a flavour of this recently when I stayed in Pimlico, right in the centre of the city, and found the local Tesco Express was only open until 10pm and all kinds of other shops and many of the takeaways shut their doors at 11pm).

So in that context the continued existence of the curfew at Wimbledon is not a surprise, which is a real shame given the sudden interruption to the drama of the match (as CD says, what is the harm in allowing it to run on a little longer?). You'd hope someday it might change but I'm not counting on it.

-- Edited by Densher on Thursday 6th of July 2023 10:34:05 PM
And if does change people will have to work those hours. Having had to work nights it's horrible and should be done out of necessity, not convenience for others needs. Playing late into the night means a lot of the staff at Wimbledon have to stay on until the finish (on minimum wage) Atleast at the moment they know they will finish before midnight and b able to get home.
ETA It's actually quite funny that so many people on this forum claim to be left wing but as soon as the Tennis is affected there is no thought for the staff there!!

-- Edited by emmsie69 on Friday 7th of July 2023 06:01:12 AM

We should all be aware that there will be cleaners working over night at all big sporting venues. I had never stopped to think about that until I stayed with the person who ran Ascot racecourse. It was the big meeting in July with racing on Friday and Saturday and he went over at 6.00 am on Saturday to thank the cleaners as they came off their shift.

Var · Satellite level

JonH comes home wrote:
If all the courts from 2 onwards are starting at 11 I see no reason at all why court one should be 1 pm and centre 1.30. If it is argued they need to allow people to arrive, from up North or wherever, get an earlier train! Should all be 11am start or 12 noon latest.

As for a curfew, I reckon tennis has been played there longer than any resident has lived there. They should have a rule to not start a new match later than a certain time but they should certainly let any match in play get finished

Reckon it is so debenture holders can have their lunch first! Looked and next issue for centre court next year should be around £80000 each!

KK · Club Coach

Norrie, Murray and Broady could well all be playing at the same time today. Not done well for the majority of viewers who will be watching on television.

the addict · Tennis legend

As I'm sure most of you know, the curfew on play is part of the licence for the event from Merton council. It's not going to change for the foreseeable future.

seagull · Hall of fame

So lucky to have been on Centre yesterday. Broady atmosphere was incredible but Andy just takes it to another level.

Exhausted today after getting last train home. I would have had to leave after 3rd set anyway so glad they called it when they did. Transport in this country does not cater for late finishes.

seagull · Hall of fame

And dont get me started on that 30 minute service game Rybakina had at the end which probably made the difference between whether we had a 4th set.

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

seagull wrote:
So lucky to have been on Centre yesterday. Broady atmosphere was incredible but Andy just takes it to another level.

Exhausted today after getting last train home. I would have had to leave after 3rd set anyway so glad they called it when they did. Transport in this country does not cater for late finishes.

I'm not jealous - honest I'm not. biggrin biggrin

Seriously though, really happy you had such a great day.

Jajon · Club Coach

emmsie69 wrote:
Densher wrote:
One of the disappointments of London is that isn't really a late night city like New York (I had a flavour of this recently when I stayed in Pimlico, right in the centre of the city, and found the local Tesco Express was only open until 10pm and all kinds of other shops and many of the takeaways shut their doors at 11pm).

So in that context the continued existence of the curfew at Wimbledon is not a surprise, which is a real shame given the sudden interruption to the drama of the match (as CD says, what is the harm in allowing it to run on a little longer?). You'd hope someday it might change but I'm not counting on it.

-- Edited by Densher on Thursday 6th of July 2023 10:34:05 PM
And if does change people will have to work those hours. Having had to work nights it's horrible and should be done out of necessity, not convenience for others needs. Playing late into the night means a lot of the staff at Wimbledon have to stay on until the finish (on minimum wage) Atleast at the moment they know they will finish before midnight and b able to get home.
ETA It's actually quite funny that so many people on this forum claim to be left wing but as soon as the Tennis is affected there is no thought for the staff there!!

-- Edited by emmsie69 on Friday 7th of July 2023 06:01:12 AM

Pay them more :)