Week 40 - ATP Masters 1000 - Shanghai, China (hard) - DOUBLES

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Week 40 - ATP Masters 1000 - Shanghai, China (hard) - DOUBLES

wolf · Tennis legend

Andy and Evo are first alternates. Not sure how Escobar & Nedovyesov received a wild card over them!

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

wolf wrote:
Andy and Evo are first alternates. Not sure how Escobar & Nedovyesov received a wild card over them!

Crazy!

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Lloyd and Hari lost to the wildcards :(

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
Lloyd and Hari lost to the wildcards :(

Thats a shame, not really been happening for them since Harri had his time off.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:60
Lloyd and Hari lost to the wildcards :(

L32: (WC) Gonzalo Escobar & Aleksandr Nedovyesov (ECU/KAZ) CR 105 (60+45) defeated Lloyd Glasspool & Harri Heliövaara (FIN) CR 61 (31+30) by 4 & 4 bleh

indiana · Tennis legend

That will lnock 150 points off Lloyd's total ranking points as a mandatory 0 replaces his lowest regular counter of 150.

9vicman · Satellite level

Stircrazy wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:60
Lloyd and Hari lost to the wildcards :(
L32: (WC) Gonzalo Escobar & Aleksandr Nedovyesov (ECU/KAZ) CR 105 (60+45) defeated Lloyd Glasspool & Harri Heliövaara (FIN) CR 61 (31+30) by 4 & 4

Heliovaara has written in his blog that he and Glasspool will play with different partners in Stockholm and Vienna (Lloyd will play with Mahut) and reconvene in Paris.

Madadman · Masters Series Champion

9vicman wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:60
Lloyd and Hari lost to the wildcards :(
L32: (WC) Gonzalo Escobar & Aleksandr Nedovyesov (ECU/KAZ) CR 105 (60+45) defeated Lloyd Glasspool & Harri Heliövaara (FIN) CR 61 (31+30) by 4 & 4
Heliovaara has written in his blog that he and Glasspool will play with different partners in Stockholm and Vienna (Lloyd will play with Mahut) and reconvene in Paris.

I think it might just be a fleeting getting back together for Paris. A shame they did so well in their rise up the rankings together. I feel the break earlier in the year for the arrival of Harris second child meant they lost their momentum. Dont think theyve really got it back. Think its lasted about 3 years which is quite long for a tours doubles partnership.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Madadman wrote:
9vicman wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:60
Lloyd and Hari lost to the wildcards :(
L32: (WC) Gonzalo Escobar & Aleksandr Nedovyesov (ECU/KAZ) CR 105 (60+45) defeated Lloyd Glasspool & Harri Heliövaara (FIN) CR 61 (31+30) by 4 & 4
Heliovaara has written in his blog that he and Glasspool will play with different partners in Stockholm and Vienna (Lloyd will play with Mahut) and reconvene in Paris.
I think it might just be a fleeting getting back together for Paris. A shame they did so well in their rise up the rankings together. I feel the break earlier in the year for the arrival of Harris second child meant they lost their momentum. Dont think theyve really got it back. Think its lasted about 3 years which is quite long for a tours doubles partnership.

My feeling also, feel we may see the end of them after this season, as a pair

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Madadman wrote:
9vicman wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:60
Lloyd and Hari lost to the wildcards :(
L32: (WC) Gonzalo Escobar & Aleksandr Nedovyesov (ECU/KAZ) CR 105 (60+45) defeated Lloyd Glasspool & Harri Heliövaara (FIN) CR 61 (31+30) by 4 & 4
Heliovaara has written in his blog that he and Glasspool will play with different partners in Stockholm and Vienna (Lloyd will play with Mahut) and reconvene in Paris.
I think it might just be a fleeting getting back together for Paris. A shame they did so well in their rise up the rankings together. I feel the break earlier in the year for the arrival of Harris second child meant they lost their momentum. Dont think theyve really got it back. Think its lasted about 3 years which is quite long for a tours doubles partnership.

Harri is in Stockholm with Salminen, Lloyd in Antwerp; and then presumably onto Vienna/ Basel separately and Paris for one last fling?

9vicman · Satellite level

JonH comes home wrote:
Madadman wrote:
9vicman wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:60
Lloyd and Hari lost to the wildcards :(
L32: (WC) Gonzalo Escobar & Aleksandr Nedovyesov (ECU/KAZ) CR 105 (60+45) defeated Lloyd Glasspool & Harri Heliövaara (FIN) CR 61 (31+30) by 4 & 4
Heliovaara has written in his blog that he and Glasspool will play with different partners in Stockholm and Vienna (Lloyd will play with Mahut) and reconvene in Paris.
I think it might just be a fleeting getting back together for Paris. A shame they did so well in their rise up the rankings together. I feel the break earlier in the year for the arrival of Harris second child meant they lost their momentum. Dont think theyve really got it back. Think its lasted about 3 years which is quite long for a tours doubles partnership.
Harri is in Stockholm with Salminen, Lloyd in Antwerp; and then presumably onto Vienna/ Basel separately and Paris for one last fling?

Now sounds like Glasspool and Heliovaara have played their last event together. A shame that the partnership has petered out, and yet they can be proud of their three years together. Am sure Glasspool and Mahut will be short term only - surely Lloyd will be looking for a younger partner.

I wonder how Glasspool and Salisbury would match up together - do they play on the same side?

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Its that time of year when many pairs reform and move into new couples. Lloyd and Mahut didnt seem to work in the grass season and I cant see it being long term. Not sure Joe and Rajeev will split now after the us open triumph, many of us predicted they might, me included.

Be interesting to see who else moves on in the next few weeks

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

9vicman wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:60
Lloyd and Hari lost to the wildcards :(
L32: (WC) Gonzalo Escobar & Aleksandr Nedovyesov (ECU/KAZ) CR 105 (60+45) defeated Lloyd Glasspool & Harri Heliövaara (FIN) CR 61 (31+30) by 4 & 4
Heliovaara has written in his blog that he and Glasspool will play with different partners in Stockholm and Vienna (Lloyd will play with Mahut) and reconvene in Paris.

My iPhone wont translate from Finnish - is anyone able to drop an English version of Harris blog in a post or point me an English translated version. my phone tells me Finnish isnt supported sadly. Thanks !

9vicman · Satellite level

Translated Heliovaara quotes:

Another thing I wanted to go over is actually surprisingly strongly related to the above, because it is very possible that today's match was the last match between me and Lloyd. We've had an absolutely insane three-year journey, where we rose from three-digit all the way to single-digit rankings. I honestly don't think that these three years could have gone better with anyone else. The collaboration was a perfect fit for me, as I got not only a tough playing partner and a good friend, but also the support of the entire English Tennis Association. I literally learned what is required of a player in top doubles.

But at this point it is also necessary to accept the facts and admit that each has its own time. I can't pinpoint a specific moment when the scales started to swing in the wrong direction, but during the late spring, summer and fall, something has been lost in our game. Expectations changed to pressure and a sense of coercion. We kept the energy up on the field, but it had to be done half-heartedly every time. Gaming was no longer enjoyable. At best, you can enjoy the pressure, now it's mostly discouraged.

Off the field, our relationship has always been excellent, but what we did on the field started to deteriorate. The same routines, the same preparations, the same mistakes. And when a worse episode comes, the mind naturally starts looking for solutions in the environment. That unconditional trust and desire to support others is slowly starting to falter. Heads droop one by one instead of being able to hold each other's heads up. We're not a perfect team anymore.

Fortunately, however, the foursome is no different from the rest of life in that when one door closes, another opens. Although the end of the collaboration is sad and even sad at the moment, at the same time Lloyd and I both know that we still have several years together on the Tour ahead of us. And it may be that they are even more successful separately than the previous three together. We are sure to find both new patterns quickly. And it would be nice to take a little measure of the man on opposite sides of the net.