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RE: Week 44 - ITF W25 - Sunderland, Great Britain Hard


the addict wrote:

I think you missed the key sentence (Section X Part A) (my highlighting in bold)

"1. Definitions
a. Competition in a Professional Tennis Tournament
For the purposes of this Rule, competition in a Professional Tennis Tournament is defined as participation in the singles or doubles Main Draw or Qualifying Draw of any Tournament at which a player earns WTA ranking points (singles or doubles) or, but for the operation of the WTA Rules or the players violation of the WTA Rules, would have earned WTA ranking points."


Missed that. Thanks for clarifying. Does make a bit of a mockery of wild cards, and the number of tournaments that players can play under the age eligibility rule.



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But don't you get a WTA point for losing in the first round of a 25k?

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Coup Droit wrote:

But don't you get a WTA point for losing in the first round of a 25k?


 No you don't, not it it is a 32 main draw, which almost all are. You do for all the higher tournaments though, but not for W15 and W15



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the addict wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:

But don't you get a WTA point for losing in the first round of a 25k?


 No you don't, not it it is a 32 main draw, which almost all are. You do for all the higher tournaments though, but not for W15 and W15


Thanks - I'm with you - a point for qualifying but not for R1 losing in itself.

But I agree with the feelings above - if the idea is to prevent youngsters over-playing then it seems weird that the losing in round one events don't count - after all, playing one match or two matches (because they lose in R2) is not very different. And if the idea is to try and spread wildcards around more, then it doesn't work either as you can keep giving the wildcards to same (losing) player over and over again 



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The AER is about much more than to restrict them from how much they play. With juniors and domestic tournaments they can still play regularly even with any restrictions on pro events. The purpose of the AER is to have a phased approach to their development suitable to their level and to protect them from the pressures and expectations of having to develop too fast to move up the rankings quickly for the prize money in bigger events, from being isolated from their social peers by from travelling the world chasing ranking points and, in particular for child prodigies, from the pressures of the media attention that they will get. To control how fast they move up the rankings, they are limited to how many events they can get ranking points from, and to limit exposure to the pressures of big events, limit the WCs they get and to the level they can be used at.

I guess the view is that by not getting WTA ranking points they are staying at entry level and shouldn't be exposed to many of the stresses that they get once they start moving up the rankings.

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So, in effect, the AER says to the player you musn't have all the stress that comes from winning but it's perfectly fine to have all the stress that comes from losing?

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A very good set of tennis by Mika
She was a break up at one point
And there was precious little in it
In the end, Mika lost the set 6-4, to the top-300 Czech teenager
But it was very close

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Got to say some of these line calls on serve have looked a little dodgy today. Palicova justifiably annoyed with them, and she has just been broken.

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Coup Droit wrote:

So, in effect, the AER says to the player you musn't have all the stress that comes from winning but it's perfectly fine to have all the stress that comes from losing?


I guess the majority of players are only going to get wild cards into domestic events, so the age eligibility rule is still going to prevent them overplaying at pro level overseas. And of course most players who lose at this level aren't going to keep getting wild cards.

Don't think playing an extra pro match or two at home is really that significant, particularly as lambda says, they could be playing ITF junior or other domestic events.



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I am here also today, Mika did well and had a couple of break points in the first game of the third but didnt take them, and the Czech pulled away after that.

Now watching Katie who started poorly but has got back to 3-3

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QF: STOJSAVLJEVIC, Mika (GBR) WC UNR lost to PALICOVA, Barbora (CZE) (6) 293 4-6 6-4 1-6
QF: SWAN, Katie (GBR) (4) 278 def SALKOVA, Dominika (CZE) (5) 281 7-5 6-4

SF: SWAN, Katie (GBR) (4) 278 (CH=118 2022) v MALYGINA, Elena (EST) (7) 334 (CH=322 2023)

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I get worried everytime I see Swan's playing - she really looked set to be top 100 over the past year, but yet again injury ruined that. Lets hope she can have 12 months without any injuries...

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9vicman wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:

So, in effect, the AER says to the player you musn't have all the stress that comes from winning but it's perfectly fine to have all the stress that comes from losing?


I guess the majority of players are only going to get wild cards into domestic events, so the age eligibility rule is still going to prevent them overplaying at pro level overseas. And of course most players who lose at this level aren't going to keep getting wild cards.

Don't think playing an extra pro match or two at home is really that significant, particularly as lambda says, they could be playing ITF junior or other domestic events.


 Yes, I agree. 

That wasn't quite what I meant, though, but I think I explained myself badly

Doesn't matter ....

More importantly, well done to Katie - and, absolutely, oh for a 12 month run of injury free tennis.... 



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wales1994 wrote:

I get worried everytime I see Swan's playing - she really looked set to be top 100 over the past year, but yet again injury ruined that. Lets hope she can have 12 months without any injuries...


 I don't think it's realistic to be injury free for that length of time, with Swan's playing record these last few years. From what I can see, Katie manages the difficulties the best she can, and does an admirable job of being in top condition when she's ready to start competing again. We can all hope Swan gets a good run of results though, I agree. Today, I wondered whether the match might be a potential banana skin, but it ended up being a good result, The first set ebbed back and forth, but Swan just seemed to be relaxed throughout, and I think that helped in some of the deuce games.



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Just come away from Sunderland. Katie was very impressive on the big points. Closer than score suggests.

She has a bit of tape on her forearm but it didnt appear to hinder her.

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