General college chat 2024/25

Lambda · ATP qualifying

General college chat 2024/25

Lambda · ATP qualifying

Moving on to the men, the matches were too late for me so just catching up on the match reports.

San Diego got a comfortable 4-0 win over UC San Diego and move on to the next round of the Ed Collins Classic. They were without Ollie Tarvet again. Information on injuries to college players is hard to come by so I haven't found anything on his exact injury other than what I observed when he retired or how long he'll be out for.

Stanford got a 4-0 win over Miami for their first ACC win. Max Basing was unfinished leading by a set and didn't play doubles.

In what sounds like another 4-3 thriller, #25 Cal defeated #26 Florida State. Derrick Chen (Cal) won his singles and Jamie Connel (FSU) dropped doubles but got a comeback win in singles.

D1: Joshua Dous-Karpenschif/Erik Schiessl (FSU) vs. Alex Chang/Derrick Chen (CAL) 5-6, unfinished
D2:Fryderyk Lechno-Wasuitynski/Mikey Wright (CAL) def. Jamie Connel/Jan Sebesta (FSU) 6-3
S2: #46 Jamie Connel (FSU) def. #49 Alex Chang (CAL) 4-6, 7-6 (5), 6-4
S5: Derrick Chen (CAL) def. Joshua Dous-Karpenschif (FSU) 6-4, 2-6, 6-4

Stanford and Cal switch opponents for tomorrow with Florida State at Stanford and Miami at Cal.

Lambda · ATP qualifying

1. Sofia Johnson (ODU) def Savannah Dada-Mascoll (App State) 7-5 6-2

This put ODU 4-0 up to secure the win but they played out the remaining singles for ODU to win 5-2. This was Savannah's first defeat of the year.

Lambda · ATP qualifying

Although their matches were unfinished and they were in losing positions I thought these were commendable scorelines for Will and Billy

Texas Def Auburn 4-1
1. #7 Timo Legout (TEX) vs. Will Nolan (AUB) 6-3, 5-4*, unf.
3. #64 Pierre-Yves Bailly (TEX) vs. Billy Blaydes (AUB) 6-2, 5-5, unf.

Will's 2nd set was on serve until the last two completed games when Will broke serve first before Timo broke straight back.
Billy had set point on deciding point in the last completed game in his match.

Lambda · ATP qualifying

Good news as Ollie Tarvet made a return for San Diego yesterday, but only played doubles with a 7-5 win. San Diego won 4-1 against Old Dominion to progress to the Ed Collins Invitational final against UC Santa Barbara

Lambda · ATP qualifying

Luca Pow gets the job done again as he gets the clinch point for Wake Forest to defeat No 5 Virginia 4-1. Wake Forest have now defeated all the other top 6 ranking teams to state their claim as the best team in men's college tennis right now.

In doubles Charlie partnering Suresh at No 1 gets a 6-3 win to extend their winning run to 6 from 6. Virginia got the win at No 3 doubles. It was down to Luca+ and James Hopper+ at No 2 doubles to decide the doubles point. Luca+ succeeded for Wake Forest in an exciting 10-8 tie-break.

Luca won his singles and Charlie was down a set against James Hopper. He served for the first set twice at 5-4 and 6-5 and then lost the tie-break 7-5, having being penalised a point at the beginning of the tie-break from having a 2nd overrule.

3. Charlie Robertson (WFU) vs. James Hopper (UVA) 6(5)-7, 2-2, unfinished
5. Luca Pow (WFU) def. Måns Dahlberg (UVA) 6-0, 7-5

-- Edited by Lambda on Sunday 9th of March 2025 08:48:09 PM

Lambda · ATP qualifying

No 12 NC State made a statement win to upset No 2 Virginia 4-2 in a match that lived up to expectations. NC State climb up to 5 in the projected rankings after this weekend's results.

NC State made a change to their doubles line up, dropping Mia Slama at No 2 doubles, moving Kristina's usual partner up to No 2 and putting Jasmine in at No 3. Doubles 1 and 2 were split leaving the battle of the Brits (and an Italian) to decide the doubles point. Isabelle and the Italian were 5-1 up, Kristina and Jasmine made a comeback but Isabelle was able to close it out 6-4 to put Virginia 1-0 up.

Isabelle at No 4 played Gabby Broadfoot and Kristina at No 5 played Pico Navarro. Kristina was not holding back, running away with her 1st set 6-0 and to a 3-0 lead in the 2nd before any of the other 1st sets were finished. All the other first sets were tight and won by a single break late in the sets. NC State won 4 of the 1st sets, including on Isabelle's court. Kristina was first to finish, winning her singles 0 & 3. Isabelle was next to finish going down 4 & 4, quickly followed by No 1 singles also going to NC State to put them 3-1 up. Courts 2, 3 and 6 all went to a 3rd set. Virginia pulled one back at No 3, No 2 singles went back and forth with who was ahead and went into a tie-break. It was 6-5 in the 3rd set tie break when NC State won at No 6 singles to give them the win.

NC State def Virginia 4-2
D3. Isabelle Lacy/Sara Ziodato (UVA) def. #88 Jasmine Conway/Kristina Paskauskas (NCSU) 6-4
S4. Gabby Broadfoot (NCSU) def #104 Isabelle Lacy 6-4 6-4
S5. Kristina Paskauskas def. Blanca Pico Navarro 6-0 6-3

While everybody has a rest during Spring Break, Gabia has chosen to play a UTR in Boca Raton.

Lambda · ATP qualifying

A special mention to Hannah Rylatt (Central Florida) who with her partner Olivia Lincer at No 1 doubles defeated the No 15 and No 23 ranked doubles teams this weekend. On Friday she defeated #15 Christina Tiglea/Liubov Kostenko (Baylor) 6-3 and today she defeated #23 Jade Otway/Isabel Pascual (TCU) 6-1

Lambda · ATP qualifying

TCU avenge their defeat to Texas last month with a 4-1 win in Fort Worth in their final non-conference match.

Lui and Pedro got their 3rd win of the season over Legout/Brown with JPJ+ securing the doubles point
In a reverse of what happened in Austin, TCU dominated singles getting the 1st set on 5 courts. Texas got their solitary point at the expense of Lui who went down 2 & 1 against Bailly. JPJ was next to finish with a 4 & 2 win over Legout for Legout's only straight sets defeat in collegiate tennis so far.

TCU def. Texas 4-1
D1. #1 Lui Maxted / Pedro Vives (TCU) def. #10 Timo Legout / Lucas Brown (Texas): 6-2
D2. #65 Jack Pinnington / Cooper Woestendick (TCU) def. Jonah Braswell / Sebastian Gorzny (Texas): 6-4

S1. #20 Jack Pinnington (TCU) def. #7 Timo Legout (Texas): 6-4, 6-2
S3. #64 Pierre-Yves Bailly (Texas) def. #15 Lui Maxted (TCU): 6-2, 6-1

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Thanks for all the updates, Lambda, as ever. Where I am lost now is where all these team matches fit in, the narrative if you like. Im used to having a league where you can see how each match impacts the league and the qualification for the next level, the promotion or relegation or getting into the Champions League (using football parlance).

How do all these fit in?

Lambda · ATP qualifying

If we ignore the NCAAs, teams are playing for their ranking and their conference position. All matches from January through to the NCAA final in May will get ranking win or ranking loss points. The conference matches which, depending on the size of the conference, start between mid February and end of March going through to mid to late April against conference opposition go towards their conference table position.

Conferences are largely regional, although the so called Power 4 conferences - SEC, ACC, Big Ten, Big 12 - have evolved to be more geographically spread, especially the ACC and Big Ten conferences which are typically eastern conferences from this year now include Pacific coast teams. These 4 conferences have the best of the best and if you are not a team or play for a team in these conferences it will be difficult to be highly ranked.

The non-conference matches between January and February/March are opportunities to get ranking points teams wouldn't get in their conference. Because win ranking points are worth more for beating higher ranked opponents, teams like San Diego in the West Coast Conference and to some extent TCU in the Big 12 conference will be largely relying on ranking points from non-conference matches for their ranking as their conferences are relatively weak compared to the likes of the SEC and ACC and so conference wins won't pick up many ranking points and may not be among the highest that count in their ranking calculation. The Big 12 conference is regarded as the weakest of the Power 4 conferences this year in both men's and women's tennis.

As well as playing for the conference regular season title, the position in the conference table will determine the team seedings for the conference championships that follow in the week after the end of the conference regular season. In the rankings teams are looking for around a top 40-50 position to get into the first round of the NCAAs. The higher ranked teams are looking for a top 16 ranking to have home advantage in the first round of the NCAAs and top 8 to have home advantage in all rounds before the final site.

I will start including team narratives in my posts where I know them. I haven't done so as I didn't think there would be any interest in them.

The win for TCU last night will be their highest win ranking counter in next week's rankings update but Wake Forest are so far ahead at No 1 it doesn't alter TCU's No 2 ranking.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Lambda wrote:
If we ignore the NCAAs, teams are playing for their ranking and their conference position. All matches from January through to the NCAA final in May will get ranking win or ranking loss points. The conference matches which, depending on the size of the conference, start between mid February and end of March going through to mid to late April against conference opposition go towards their conference table position.

Conferences are largely regional, although the so called Power 4 conferences - SEC, ACC, Big Ten, Big 12 - have evolved to be more geographically spread, especially the ACC and Big Ten conferences which are typically eastern conferences from this year now include Pacific coast teams. These 4 conferences have the best of the best and if you are not a team or play for a team in these conferences it will be difficult to be highly ranked.

The non-conference matches between January and February/March are opportunities to get ranking points teams wouldn't get in their conference. Because win ranking points are worth more for beating higher ranked opponents, teams like San Diego in the West Coast Conference and to some extent TCU in the Big 12 conference will be largely relying on ranking points from non-conference matches for their ranking as their conferences are relatively weak compared to the likes of the SEC and ACC and so conference wins won't pick up many ranking points and may not be among the highest that count in their ranking calculation. The Big 12 conference is regarded as the weakest of the Power 4 conferences this year in both men's and women's tennis.

As well as playing for the conference regular season title, the position in the conference table will determine the team seedings for the conference championships that follow in the week after the end of the conference regular season. In the rankings teams are looking for around a top 40-50 position to get into the first round of the NCAAs. The higher ranked teams are looking for a top 16 ranking to have home advantage in the first round of the NCAAs and top 8 to have home advantage in all rounds before the final site.

I will start including team narratives in my posts where I know them. I haven't done so as I didn't think there would be any interest in them.

The win for TCU last night will be their highest win ranking counter in next week's rankings update but Wake Forest are so far ahead at No 1 it doesn't alter TCU's No 2 ranking.

Thanks Lambda - that is very, very clear and makes sense!! And please dont think I was having a dig, it just struck me that it really helps me to know where things fit in and that they arent just "friendly" matches, in effect. The odd conference update in terms of rankings/positions would be fab, if you have time!

Lambda · ATP qualifying

The latest rankings, that came out before the TCU match yesterday have Wake Forest over 20 points ahead of TCU. With much better 6th to 10th counters, that will start to count over the coming weeks, than others its difficult to see how Wake Forest could lose the No 1 ranking before the NCAAs.

Men
1. (1) Wake Forest (Robertson, Pow, [Thursfield])
2. (2) TCU (Pinnington-Jones, Maxted, [Swan])
3. (4) Texas
4. (3) Ohio State (Jansen)
5. (6) NC State
6. (7) San Diego (Tarvet)
7. (10) Columbia
8. (5) Virginia (Hopper)

Select others
9. (9) Stanford (Basing)
14. (14) Baylor (Koenig, Bowden)
15. (26) California (Chen)
22. (33) USC (Weightman)
27. (24) Florida (Jefferson)
30. (50) Georgia (F Blaydes)
31. (21) Alabama (Jones)
32. (25) Florida State (Connel)
39. (32) Auburn (B Blaydes, Nolan)

Women
NC State's win over Virginia sees them move up 7 places to 5 and Virginia down 1 and the first time we've had 2 women's teams in the top 5 this year. Good wins for USC and Florida sees them make good moves up the rankings. Still no sign of Florida State or Miami.

1. (1) Georgia
2. (3) Texas A&M
3. (2) Virginia (Lacy)
4. (5) UNC
5. (12) NC State (K Paskauskas, G Paskauskas, Conway)
6. (4) Michigan
7. (10) Duke
8. (6) Tennessee

Selected others
17. (23) Central Florida (Rylatt)
18. (30) USC (Piper, Haddad)
22. (24) Clemson (Annabelle Davis)
24. (22) Georgia Tech (Roach, Bilchev)
29. (27) Florida Atlantic (Millie-Mae Matthews)
37. (61) Florida (Dudeney, Neilsen-Gatenby)
39. (36) Old Dominion (Johnson)
45. (53) Tulsa (Lily Hutchings)
50. (42) Furman (Jess Dawson)
Florida State (Bissett, Shaw) and Miami (Ogunwale) are outside the published top 75

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

thanks Lambda

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