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The weird & wonderful world of English grammar...


I was very drunk. The elongated form of mofos would certainly be edited out by software.

I am now sober, and embarrassed.

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wimbledont wrote:

I was very drunk. The elongated form of mofos would certainly be edited out by software.

I am now sober, and embarrassed.


 biggrin

PS However, I have now figured it out and am, at least, a little better informed smile



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Sunday 28th of July 2024 12:36:25 PM

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Coup Droit wrote:
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christ wrote:

"mo-fos"?


To which one might add "brat"...


As ever, I shook my head in disbelief when I read this a couple of days ago.  What's the point of these new so-called "words" if they put up a barrier between those who use them & the rest of the population?  confuse


But I still don't know what 'mo-fos' are 


For some reason, I think I worked out what it stood for the minute I saw it.  That said, while I freely admit that I am no angel when it comes to using bad(-ish) language, I can also safely say that I have never, ever used the F-word in anger towards someone, as there are plenty of other options, though I have gritted my teeth & held my nose when I've needed to quote it in something someone else said.

That still leaves "brat" unexplained.... 



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SC, this should explain "brat". (It's a very, very new usage.)

news.sky.com/story/kamala-is-brat-how-the-harris-campaign-has-already-taken-social-media-by-storm-13183683

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Tanaqui wrote:

SC, this should explain "brat". (It's a very, very new usage.)

news.sky.com/story/kamala-is-brat-how-the-harris-campaign-has-already-taken-social-media-by-storm-13183683


Thanks, Tanaqui, but I was looking for a one-word synonym to shed light on the actual meaning, so am still baffled.   



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Don't know if this helps

Origin
mid 16th century: perhaps an abbreviation of synonymous Scots bratchet, from Old French brachet hound, bitch;
or perhaps from dialect brat rough garment, rag, based on Old Irish bratt cloak.



-- Edited by Strongbow on Sunday 28th of July 2024 10:58:28 PM

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Stircrazy wrote:
Tanaqui wrote:

SC, this should explain "brat". (It's a very, very new usage.)

news.sky.com/story/kamala-is-brat-how-the-harris-campaign-has-already-taken-social-media-by-storm-13183683


Thanks, Tanaqui, but I was looking for a one-word synonym to shed light on the actual meaning, so am still baffled.   


Hahaha, I don't think there is a one word synonym! It's basically giving approval for something (so the equivalent to using "cool" or (more recently) "sick") but the approval is for something that's not perfectly polished and slick and put together, but it doesn't matter that it isn't: it's just joyously and unashamedly out there doing its thing, however imperfectly, and that's great.

Umm, does that help at all?

(And in writing that out, I've realised wimbledont was absolutely right to say "English is brat". It is!)



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Tanaqui wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
Tanaqui wrote:

SC, this should explain "brat". (It's a very, very new usage.)

news.sky.com/story/kamala-is-brat-how-the-harris-campaign-has-already-taken-social-media-by-storm-13183683


Thanks, Tanaqui, but I was looking for a one-word synonym to shed light on the actual meaning, so am still baffled.   


Hahaha, I don't think there is a one word synonym! It's basically giving approval for something (so the equivalent to using "cool" or (more recently) "sick") but the approval is for something that's not perfectly polished and slick and put together, but it doesn't matter that it isn't: it's just joyously and unashamedly out there doing its thing, however imperfectly, and that's great.

Umm, does that help at all?

(And in writing that out, I've realised wimbledont was absolutely right to say "English is brat". It is!)


 Oh how exciting, my artwork is definitely 'brat' biggrin



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I thought it was wurst.

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I will have to start using brat and see if my children comment biggrin 

mo-fos was obvs and the slang dictionary is v helpful when trying not to appear old and out of touch  wink

According , to my sisters boyfriend, I speak like a character from an 18th century novel jus cos I use words like peruse and obsequious aww

 



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The saurus with a chorus | Arnold Zwicky's BlogThe saurus with a chorus | Arnold Zwicky's Blog

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-- Edited by Elegant Point on Monday 29th of July 2024 04:58:47 PM

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LOL! Excellent. 



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Hahaha, that's hilarious!

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Very good.

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Word of the year 2024 revealed by Cambridge Dictionary

Michael Howie, The Standard, 20th November 2024

"Manifest" has been named Cambridge Dictionary's word of the year for 2024, after celebrities such as pop star Dua Lipa and gymnast Simone Biles spoke of manifesting their success. The term, which has gained traction on TikTok and other social media, was looked up almost 130,000 times on the Cambridge Dictionary website this year. Editors said this made it one of the most-viewed words of 2024.

Wendalyn Nichols, Publishing Manager of the Cambridge Dictionary, said the word manifest had "increased notably in lookups" this year. "Its use widened greatly across all types of media due to events in 2024 and it shows how the meanings of a word can change over time," she said. Dua Lipa told this year of manifesting her headline slot at Glastonbury Festival.

Lexicographers said the term "to manifest" has evolved to be used in the sense of "to imagine achieving something you want, in the belief that doing so will make it more likely to happen". Dr Sander van der Linden, author of The Psychology of Misinformation and Professor of Social Psychology at Cambridge University, cautioned that the idea of manifesting success has no scientific validity.  "Manifesting is what psychologists call 'magical thinking' or the general illusion that specific mental rituals can change the world around us," he said.  "Manifesting gained tremendous popularity during the pandemic on TikTok with billions of views, including the popular 3-6-9 method which calls for writing down your wishes three times in the morning, six times in the afternoon and nine times before bed. This procedure promotes obsessive and compulsive behaviour with no discernible benefits.  But can we really blame people for trying it, when prominent celebrities have been openly 'manifesting' their success? 'Manifesting' wealth, love and power can lead to unrealistic expectations and disappointment. Think of the dangerous idea that you can cure serious diseases simply by wishing them away. There is good research on the value of positive thinking, self-affirmation, and goal-setting. Believing in yourself, bringing a positive attitude, setting realistic goals and putting in the effort pays off because people are enacting change in the real world. However, it is crucial to understand the difference between the power of positive thinking and moving reality with your mind - the former is healthy, whereas the latter is pseudoscience."

The oldest sense of the word manifest - which English poet Geoffrey Chaucer spelled as "manyfest" in the 14th century - is the adjective meaning "easily noticed or obvious". In the mid-1800s, this adjective sense was used in American politics in the context of "manifest destiny", the belief that American settlers were clearly destined to expand across North America. Chaucer also used the oldest sense of the verb "manifest", "to show something clearly, through signs or actions". Shakespeare used manifest as an adjective in The Merchant of Venice: "For it appears, by manifest proceeding, that...thou hast contrived against the very life of the defendant".

The verb is still used frequently in this way: for example, people can manifest their dissatisfaction, or symptoms of an illness can manifest themselves. Lack of confidence in a company can manifest itself through a fall in share price. The meaning of making something clear is reflected in the related noun "manifesto": a "written statement of the beliefs, aims, and policies of an organization, especially a political party".

no  And don't get me started on that hideous expression "gaining traction"!  furious

 

 

 



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