It's interesting that we talk about lack of depth beyond Jack and Cam, when for years we didn't have a Top 100, or Andy only had the likes of James Ward to back him. Shows that things have improved, although as a rich tennis nation, there should be expectations.
For sure, and to be honest, I think we actually performed pretty well in this tie. Japan had their strongest team, and while Nishikori is only ranked 70, he's definitely playing at a higher level. While in contrast, we were missing our two leading players, plus the squad's at a bit of a transitional moment right now with Andy retired and Dan seemingly heading back down towards the ITFs.
British tennis is hugely on the up on both the men's and women's sides. We've got such an abundance of elite doubles talent that a guy who's just won 2 slams in the last 6 months can't even get in the team. Growing up I remember how we lost multiple World Group ties because we literally only had Tim & Greg, and because they had to play all 3 days, they were totally cooked by the time that the reverse singles came along.
Jake winning a rubber was great, he's seemingly heading for the top 50, then we've got Jack who's top 10 potential, and fingers crossed Cam can shake his off his slump. Billy's had a solid year, making final round of qualies in three slams and getting to the cusp of the top 100.
I mean, we played our second team here really, with our top 2 singles players missing and playing our 2nd and 6th ranked doubles players.
Hopefully we will get an ok draw in the September World Group One (BBC kept calling it relegation playoffs but it is equally promotion play offs and officially World Group One) and avoid an away tie on clay somewhere.
I mean, we played our second team here really, with our top 2 singles players missing and playing our 2nd and 6th ranked doubles players.
Hopefully we will get an ok draw in the September World Group One (BBC kept calling it relegation playoffs but it is equally promotion play offs and officially World Group One) and avoid an away tie on clay somewhere.
Tbf most of the media calls it a relegation play-off which is what it really is for us ( and it is from5 a GB point of view they are talking ).
Anyway lose it and we ain't in any World Group winning contention next year, we will be out of that process as we will have dropped a tier. I think promotion / relegation play-off kind of paints the picture better than the official World Group 1 malarkey, which then begs the question as to what does that mean, especially with a less clued up audience.
I mean, we played our second team here really, with our top 2 singles players missing and playing our 2nd and 6th ranked doubles players.
Hopefully we will get an ok draw in the September World Group One (BBC kept calling it relegation playoffs but it is equally promotion play offs and officially World Group One) and avoid an away tie on clay somewhere.
Tbf most of the media calls it a relegation play-off which is what it really is for us ( and it is from a GB point of view they are talking ).
Anyway lose it and we ain't in any World Group winning contention next year, we will be out of that process as we will have dropped a tier. I think promotion / relegation play-off kind of paints the picture better than the official World Group 1 malarkey, which then begs the question as to what does that mean, especially with a less clued up audience.
Agree Indi that the terminology could be clearer, and I'm one who looks at the website and gets tickets to these events sometimes
I mean, we played our second team here really, with our top 2 singles players missing and playing our 2nd and 6th ranked doubles players.
Hopefully we will get an ok draw in the September World Group One (BBC kept calling it relegation playoffs but it is equally promotion play offs and officially World Group One) and avoid an away tie on clay somewhere.
Tbf most of the media calls it a relegation play-off which is what it really is for us ( and it is from a GB point of view they are talking ).
Anyway lose it and we ain't in any World Group winning contention next year, we will be out of that process as we will have dropped a tier. I think promotion / relegation play-off kind of paints the picture better than the official World Group 1 malarkey, which then begs the question as to what does that mean, especially with a less clued up audience.
Agree Indi that the terminology could be clearer, and I'm one who looks at the website and gets tickets to these events sometimes
Double agreed and I should have said above in my original post that I find it confusing also. I tend to post quickly, and not check what Ive said or if I have made my point clearly, and on this occasion (as with many occasions) it wasnt at all clear!
These are the teams in the promotion/relegation play offs in September (13/14 or 14/15, home drawn team selects dates).
We are a seed and, presumably, draw an unseeded team
Seeded teams
Canada (#3)
Serbia (#7)
Great Britain (#12)
Finland (#13)
Chile (#16)
Brazil (#17)
Slovakia (#18)
South Korea (#19)
Sweden (#20)
Kazakhstan (#21)
Switzerland (#23)
Portugal (#26)
Chinese Taipei (#27)
Unseeded teams
Israel (#28)
Bosnia and Herzegovina (#30)
Norway (#31)
Colombia (#32)
Turkey (#33)
Peru (#34)
Ecuador (#36) or Uruguay (#45)
India (#38)
Greece (#39)
Poland (#41)
Bulgaria (#43)
Luxembourg (#54=)
Tunisia (#56)
These are the teams in the promotion/relegation play offs in September (13/14 or 14/15, home drawn team selects dates).
We are a seed and, presumably, draw an unseeded team
Seeded teams Canada (#3) Serbia (#7) Great Britain (#12) Finland (#13) Chile (#16) Brazil (#17) Slovakia (#18) South Korea (#19) Sweden (#20) Kazakhstan (#21) Switzerland (#23) Portugal (#26) Chinese Taipei (#27) Unseeded teams Israel (#28) Bosnia and Herzegovina (#30) Norway (#31) Colombia (#32) Turkey (#33) Peru (#34) Ecuador (#36) or Uruguay (#45) India (#38) Greece (#39) Poland (#41) Bulgaria (#43) Luxembourg (#54=) Tunisia (#56)
I believe the rankings might be updated before the draw. But Norway a tough opponent for any seed.
And yes, agree re the terminology. None of the World Groups are really a group, they're just a round. And if sticking to that terminology, surely you start the year in the World Group I and move on to the Play-offs and not the other way round.
These are the teams in the promotion/relegation play offs in September (13/14 or 14/15, home drawn team selects dates).
We are a seed and, presumably, draw an unseeded team
Seeded teams Canada (#3) Serbia (#7) Great Britain (#12) Finland (#13) Chile (#16) Brazil (#17) Slovakia (#18) South Korea (#19) Sweden (#20) Kazakhstan (#21) Switzerland (#23) Portugal (#26) Chinese Taipei (#27) Unseeded teams Israel (#28) Bosnia and Herzegovina (#30) Norway (#31) Colombia (#32) Turkey (#33) Peru (#34) Ecuador (#36) or Uruguay (#45) India (#38) Greece (#39) Poland (#41) Bulgaria (#43) Luxembourg (#54=) Tunisia (#56)
I believe the rankings might be updated before the draw. But Norway a tough opponent for any seed.
And yes, agree re the terminology. None of the World Groups are really a group, they're just a round. And if sticking to that terminology, surely you start the year in the World Group I and move on to the Play-offs and not the other way round.
yeah, that struck me as a bit of a weird way of explaining it as well!
Good to see that Jon's on board for calling September the promotion / relegation play-offs
We now just need to petition the Davis Cup bods.
Agreed, but not as simple as that. You have promotion and relegation between Qualifiers and World Group I, and between World Group I and World Group II, so how do you differentiate.
Good to see that Jon's on board for calling September the promotion / relegation play-offs
We now just need to petition the Davis Cup bods.
Agreed, but not as simple as that. You have promotion and relegation between Qualifiers and World Group I, and between World Group I and World Group II, so how do you differentiate.
Simple - we call the September event GB will be in the
promotion to World Group and relegation to World Group I playoffs
- it rolls off the tongue and the marketing bods will love it!
Good to see that Jon's on board for calling September the promotion / relegation play-offs
We now just need to petition the Davis Cup bods.
Agreed, but not as simple as that. You have promotion and relegation between Qualifiers and World Group I, and between World Group I and World Group II, so how do you differentiate.
Simple - we call the September event GB will be in the
promotion to World Group and relegation to World Group I playoffs
- it rolls off the tongue and the marketing bods will love it!
Quite and that's the issue! In fact it would be relegation to 'World Group I Play-offs' play-offs!!!
Good to see that Jon's on board for calling September the promotion / relegation play-offs
We now just need to petition the Davis Cup bods.
Agreed, but not as simple as that. You have promotion and relegation between Qualifiers and World Group I, and between World Group I and World Group II, so how do you differentiate.
Simple - we call the September event GB will be in the
promotion to World Group and relegation to World Group I playoffs
- it rolls off the tongue and the marketing bods will love it!
Quite and that's the issue! In fact it would be relegation to 'World Group I Play-offs' play-offs!!!
As an aside, when I type on my phone, it loses all the full stops, commas, quotation marks. Does anyone else have that issue and how do you get around it?