Sir Andy Murray 2025 Player of the Month and Season Awards - overview thread

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Sir Andy Murray 2025 Player of the Month and Season Awards - overview thread

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Indy posted

On the subject of the level of votes, I have detected an interesting correlation regarding the vote levels each month and how strong the male / female contenders have been, well during 2024 at least.

Not sure that anyone does get that obsessed with voting levels ( ) but anyway, to go in to more detail:

In 2024 we had 3 PoM votes of over 50 :

February - 53 : a very strong performance from that month's PoM winner - Katie B, WTA 500 San Diego winner.

May - 59 : strong performances from Emma ( & the BJK Cup Team ) away to France and from Mika in winning the Nottingham W35. Emma and Mika shared the PoM.

September - 58 : strong performances from Sonay, WTA 250 Monastir winner and Mika, US Open Girls winner. They shared the PoM.

Over these 3 month we had some of the strongest women's performances of the year, with the men not really.contending, and the vote certainly came out.

Contrast this with the 2 lowest vote months of 2024 :

July - 35 : Henry was the clear PoM winner from Jake, with none of the 5 female nominees getting more than 5.7% of the vote so absolutely no serious female contender.

August - 33 : Jake and Jan C shared the PoM, a fair bit ahead of Mimi and then Sonay. Definitely a stronger women's line-up than in July but nothing like the big women's performance months when the vote has really come out.

So what to make of all that? There certainly appears to be some correlation between there being strong female contenders and high votes. There will undoubtedly be other factors, some pretty random and at times far from clear, but there you are ...

Now in this latest January 2025 PoM vote, we had a possibly unprecedented just 2 female nominees, neither a real contender. Maybe we were lucky to get as many as 37 votes in the end?!

It is all pretty curious. Clearly there will be folk that more follow the women players and others that more follow the men players and apparently (?) perhaps some folk that while voting in months with strong female contenders, don't vote at all in other months.
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I don't say that any such inclination, if true, is right or wrong, m'lawd, I just present a few facts.

Thank you for your kind attention.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Jon responded - That is very interesting and you may have something. I think we all know the womens game is more strongly followed by folks on this board, a lot more women preference than mens game preference as evidenced by posting activity, and a few like yourself who tend to be more neutral.

I had a previous theory that month of the year might affect it and I need to analyse that as well, as there could be other factors in play but your theory is one that resonates - I have the final vote numbers and winners names for all 5 years its been going so can see if women winners correlates as well over the longer period.

interesting ! And thanks

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Looking at the months of year averages

Jan 38.6
Feb 40
Mar 37.25
Apr 40.5
May 32.25
Jun 36.5
Jul 33.2
Aug 31.8
Sep 36
Oct 35.8
Nov 42.3
Dec 32.75

I always felt there was a summer dip with some folks being on holiday, December might replicate that as well and May is heart of clay season.

Whereas Jan to April and maybe after summer Sep-Nov are when people are a) fresh into the season and have some hope b) not away from work or school on holiday

But I am not sure that is conclusive and this January vote was below the January average so maybe doesnt align with that. November is consistently high although not always the highest, and suggests other factors are at play!

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

If you exclude 2020 for covid reasons, the averages are below - suggesting a mid season May to Aug slump and then Xmas as well - again, clay, hols and Xmas may impact a few voters - we are only talking at the edges here though I think

Jan 38.6
Feb 41.5
Mar 37.25
Apr 40.5
May 32.25
Jun 36.5
Jul 35
Aug 34
Sep 39.25
Oct 38.75
Nov 42.33333333
Dec 34.66666667

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Here is the vote profile when a male or female has won (or two or more tied, not including when a man and woman tied)

Prior to 2024, when a woman won the vote, there was a very small average of voters, but it as small. In 2023, it was just under 2 votes per poll; but in 2024 it was a whopping 6 votes per poll or 15% higher
Men Women
2020 26 26.2 0.77%
2021 29.67 30.4 2.46%
2022 36.5 36.43 -0.19%
2023 39 40.67 4.28%
2024 40.6 46.6 14.78%

That tallies with my view of the board, we have had an increase in people following the women more than men, I would say - some of that has aligned with a few men following members like Bob becoming less frequently here - and that has felt ever more prevalent this past year. And maybe the 2024 figures aligned ie when a woman wins the vote or stands out, more people have their say and support the women through voting, and they vote less when the women have done less well.

It strikes me as something that does tally for 2024 at least, if less so in years before that?

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

In terms of all time POM titles, the leaders are:

6 - Fran
5 - Emma
4 - Cam, Dan, Henry and Sonay.

if you add PoS titles into the mix, Joe also has 4 (2 PoS and 2 PoM titles).

So Henrys January win takes him up to all time equal top man in terms of PoM wins. With Cam and Dan not looking likely to win one anytime soon, Henry could take the lead in his own in the near future. Perhaps.

For now, Fran leads the way still.

-- Edited by JonH comes home on Wednesday 5th of February 2025 07:48:38 AM

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

I learnt this month that people do think about their votes, think a little about who is or isnt qualified for PoS and how their vote impacts that, and also think about second place as a consequence. Or some people do.

Which surprised me but in a good way!

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

I was thinking of voting numbers being slightly down the past few votes, compared to last year. Im sure it is to do with new members not being able to join; we , as always, will have members from a year ago that , for whatever reason, dont stop by anymore and thats just normal. But I think until the past few months newbies have come in and probably do post the of vote here and there. I wonder if no one being able to join now depresses the numbers of voters?