Week 7 - ITF M25 - Roehampton, Great Britain (indoor hard)

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

RE: Week 7 - ITF M25 - Roehampton, Great Britain (indoor hard)

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
paulisi wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
paulisi wrote:
Hearing good things about Patrick Brady, so expecting a few decent results this week.
About a year ago, Jaggy and I had an ongoing converstaion about Patrick
Jaggy argued - justifiably - that his game is more than the sum of its parts
I've watched him (Patrick, not Jaggy ) be very agile, a good engine, a decent game that could easily get up towards the 500 mark
But I'm still not convinced
(By neither him nor his brother, tbh, though it's sweet to see them both playing here together)
It's his serve that still needs work, the rest of his game is very good.
Sorry, paulis, but having watched a fair bit of Patrick's match today, the rest of his game is still not 'very' good - it's reasonable, it's agile, it's well-rounded, but it's nothing worthy of getting excited about
Very much as it used to be, tbh, just a touch better as he's got a little taller and stronger
He lost today to Ben Jones, and deservedly so - it was a close match but Ben (who isn't a great hope for GB tennis either) had the more fire in his game
Patrick's grandstanding and dying duck act - and refusing to shake the umpire's hand - is hardly endearing either
That said, Greg R shouting loudly from the stands at every point is hardly helpful - I've said before that I dislike it, and I realise it's each to their own, but shouting 'that's the way, there you go' when Patrick has made a UE, at a tense point at the backend of the match, and when Patrick is down the end where Greg is shouting from, is hardly 'fairplay'
As an aside, Conor Brady is a board member and often visits although doesnt post.

And so ?

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:

L32: (5) Henry Searle WR 389 defeated (Q) Tom Hands WR 1391 by 3 & 4

*****

L16: (1) Rudolf Molleker (GER) WR 282 vs Arthur Féry WR 580

L16: (8) Daniil Glinka (EST) WR 451 (CH = 390 last September) vs (WC) Liam Broady WR 770
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L32: Ben Jones WR 679 defeated (Q) Patrick Brady WR 862 by 7-6(5) 4-6 6-3

*****

L16: Ben Jones WR 679 vs Elmar Ejupovic (GER) WR 561 (CH = 273 in April 2023)

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
L32: Keegan Smith (USA) WR 554 defeated (WC) James Story WR 739 by 3 & 4

L32: (7) Raul Brancaccio (ITA) WR 432 defeated (Q) Alexis Canter WR 1438 by 4 & 3

paulisi · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
paulisi wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
paulisi wrote:
Hearing good things about Patrick Brady, so expecting a few decent results this week.
About a year ago, Jaggy and I had an ongoing converstaion about Patrick
Jaggy argued - justifiably - that his game is more than the sum of its parts
I've watched him (Patrick, not Jaggy ) be very agile, a good engine, a decent game that could easily get up towards the 500 mark
But I'm still not convinced
(By neither him nor his brother, tbh, though it's sweet to see them both playing here together)
It's his serve that still needs work, the rest of his game is very good.
Sorry, paulis, but having watched a fair bit of Patrick's match today, the rest of his game is still not 'very' good - it's reasonable, it's agile, it's well-rounded, but it's nothing worthy of getting excited about
Very much as it used to be, tbh, just a touch better as he's got a little taller and stronger
He lost today to Ben Jones, and deservedly so - it was a close match but Ben (who isn't a great hope for GB tennis either) had the more fire in his game
Patrick's grandstanding and dying duck act - and refusing to shake the umpire's hand - is hardly endearing either
That said, Greg R shouting loudly from the stands at every point is hardly helpful - I've said before that I dislike it, and I realise it's each to their own, but shouting 'that's the way, there you go' when Patrick has made a UE, at a tense point at the backend of the match, and when Patrick is down the end where Greg is shouting from, is hardly 'fairplay'
As an aside, Conor Brady is a board member and often visits although doesnt post.
And so ?

A large number of the pro players and juniors or parents read the board. Some even post.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

paulisi wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
paulisi wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
paulisi wrote:
Hearing good things about Patrick Brady, so expecting a few decent results this week.
About a year ago, Jaggy and I had an ongoing converstaion about Patrick
Jaggy argued - justifiably - that his game is more than the sum of its parts
I've watched him (Patrick, not Jaggy ) be very agile, a good engine, a decent game that could easily get up towards the 500 mark
But I'm still not convinced
(By neither him nor his brother, tbh, though it's sweet to see them both playing here together)
It's his serve that still needs work, the rest of his game is very good.
Sorry, paulis, but having watched a fair bit of Patrick's match today, the rest of his game is still not 'very' good - it's reasonable, it's agile, it's well-rounded, but it's nothing worthy of getting excited about
Very much as it used to be, tbh, just a touch better as he's got a little taller and stronger
He lost today to Ben Jones, and deservedly so - it was a close match but Ben (who isn't a great hope for GB tennis either) had the more fire in his game
Patrick's grandstanding and dying duck act - and refusing to shake the umpire's hand - is hardly endearing either
That said, Greg R shouting loudly from the stands at every point is hardly helpful - I've said before that I dislike it, and I realise it's each to their own, but shouting 'that's the way, there you go' when Patrick has made a UE, at a tense point at the backend of the match, and when Patrick is down the end where Greg is shouting from, is hardly 'fairplay'
As an aside, Conor Brady is a board member and often visits although doesnt post.
And so ?
A large number of the pro players and juniors or parents read the board. Some even post.

Yes, of course, I know that - I talk to quite a few of them in private posts

But I don't see what difference it makes

If you say that someone has a reasonable, agile game that could see them in the top-500 but you don't see them in the top-250, say, and they really should behave a little better (both Patrick and, separately, Greg), then good, if they read it - especially the second bit

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
paulisi wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
paulisi wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
paulisi wrote:
Hearing good things about Patrick Brady, so expecting a few decent results this week.
About a year ago, Jaggy and I had an ongoing converstaion about Patrick
Jaggy argued - justifiably - that his game is more than the sum of its parts
I've watched him (Patrick, not Jaggy ) be very agile, a good engine, a decent game that could easily get up towards the 500 mark
But I'm still not convinced
(By neither him nor his brother, tbh, though it's sweet to see them both playing here together)
It's his serve that still needs work, the rest of his game is very good.
Sorry, paulis, but having watched a fair bit of Patrick's match today, the rest of his game is still not 'very' good - it's reasonable, it's agile, it's well-rounded, but it's nothing worthy of getting excited about
Very much as it used to be, tbh, just a touch better as he's got a little taller and stronger
He lost today to Ben Jones, and deservedly so - it was a close match but Ben (who isn't a great hope for GB tennis either) had the more fire in his game
Patrick's grandstanding and dying duck act - and refusing to shake the umpire's hand - is hardly endearing either
That said, Greg R shouting loudly from the stands at every point is hardly helpful - I've said before that I dislike it, and I realise it's each to their own, but shouting 'that's the way, there you go' when Patrick has made a UE, at a tense point at the backend of the match, and when Patrick is down the end where Greg is shouting from, is hardly 'fairplay'
As an aside, Conor Brady is a board member and often visits although doesnt post.
And so ?
A large number of the pro players and juniors or parents read the board. Some even post.
Yes, of course, I know that - I talk to quite a few of them in private posts
But I don't see what difference it makes
If you say that someone has a reasonable, agile game that could see them in the top-500 but you don't see them in the top-250, say, and they really should behave a little better (both Patrick and, separately, Greg), then good, if they read it - especially the second bit

It was just an observation - nothing really intended other than to say what I said and to use as you wish!

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Quite understand, Jon

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
L16: (1) Rudolf Molleker (GER) WR 282 vs Arthur Féry WR 580
L16: (8) Daniil Glinka (EST) WR 451 (CH = 390 last September) vs (WC) Liam Broady WR 770

L16: Ben Jones WR 679 vs Elmar Ejupovic (GER) WR 561 (CH = 273 in April 2023)

L32: Max Wiskandt (GER) WR 492 defeated (Q) Marcus Walters WR 1295 by 7-5 4-6 6-4 hmm

L32: George Loffhagen WR 530 defeated (WC) Harry Wendelken WR 642 by 6-4 4-6 6-2

*****

L16: Max Wiskandt (GER) WR 492 vs (5) Henry Searle WR 389

L16: (7) Raul Brancaccio (ITA) WR 432 vs George Loffhagen WR 530

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
L16: (1) Rudolf Molleker (GER) WR 282 vs Arthur Féry WR 580

L16: (8) Daniil Glinka (EST) WR 451 (CH = 390 last September) vs (WC) Liam Broady WR 770

L16: Ben Jones WR 679 vs Elmar Ejupovic (GER) WR 561 (CH = 273 in April 2023)

L16: Max Wiskandt (GER) WR 492 vs (5) Henry Searle WR 389
L16: (7) Raul Brancaccio (ITA) WR 432 vs George Loffhagen WR 530

L32: (6) Anton Matusevich WR 421 defeated (WC) Toby Samuel WR 1612 by 6-1 3-6 6-4

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
L16: (1) Rudolf Molleker (GER) WR 282 vs Arthur Féry WR 580
L16: (8) Daniil Glinka (EST) WR 451 (CH = 390 last September) vs (WC) Liam Broady WR 770

L16: Ben Jones WR 679 vs Elmar Ejupovic (GER) WR 561 (CH = 273 in April 2023)
L16: Max Wiskandt (GER) WR 492 vs (5) Henry Searle WR 389
L16: (7) Raul Brancaccio (ITA) WR 432 vs George Loffhagen WR 530
L32: (6) Anton Matusevich WR 421 defeated (WC) Toby Samuel WR 1612 by 6-1 3-6 6-4

L32: Stuart Parker WR 527 defeated (Q) Cyril Vandermeersch (FRA) WR 837 by 7-6(5) 4-6 6-3

*****

L16: Stuart Parker WR 527 vs (6) Anton Matusevich WR 421

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

L16: Arthur Féry WR 580 defeated (1) Rudolf Molleker (GER) WR 282 by 4 & 4 biggrin

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
L16: Arthur Féry WR 580 defeated (1) Rudolf Molleker (GER) WR 282 by 4 & 4

Excellent, well done Arthur!

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
L16: Arthur Féry WR 580 defeated (1) Rudolf Molleker (GER) WR 282 by 4 & 4

L16: (WC) Liam Broady WR 770 defeated (8) Daniil Glinka (EST) WR 451 by 2-6 6-1 6-4 biggrin

I thought he'd blown it after that first set!

seagull · Hall of fame

Searle broken at 5-5 in the third set. But has just broken back so its a final set tiebreak