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Week 8 - WTA1000 - Dubai Hard


dodrade wrote:

However things go with Muchova Emma has proven herself worthy of a WC this week.

It seems bizarre to me given her achievements that Emma is treated much more harshly on this forum than any other player. We wouldn't expect anybody else in her position to look a gift horse in the mouth and refuse a wild card, why should Emma? Of her recent defeats only the Busca match was one she ought to have won (and almost did). Frankly I suspect a lot of people saying she should play qualifying instead regard Emma as a fluke rather than a legitimate Top 100 player and simply want her to fail.


I was certainly happy to see Emma win.That doesn't change the fact that personally I stand by my repeated views that Emma should not be accepting all these MD WCs. Again, to repeat, that is because she has played so few matches overall and I think it would do her good, be in her best interests to play qualifiers, likely lead to her playing more matches from an easier base, and help her to steadily improve back towards her best capabilities which I think remain potentially considerable.

That she is offered all these WCs is absolutely understandable. She is entitled to them as a Slam winner and is a considerable commercial draw. Whether deserving, one can argue, but that's not the point, she doesn't have to accept them and one win so far here doesn't change my view that I think for her progression she would likely do better over time by entering qualifying. As someone who wants to see her do very well ( and she's showing good if inconsistent signs as it is, all things considered ) I have found it very frustrating to see her accept all these WCs when qualifying was an option.

FWIW, my own whole history with commenting on Emma are absolutely not thoughts that she is any fluke or not a legitimate top 100 player. To my mind she so very clearly is a huge talent who managed well and with the right motivation can long term be right around the top of the rankings and be a serial top title contender.

While I have been speaking personally here, I do think you seriously misunderstand what is motivating many folk's WC comments.



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dodrade wrote:

However things go with Muchova Emma has proven herself worthy of a WC this week.

It seems bizarre to me given her achievements that Emma is treated much more harshly on this forum than any other player. We wouldn't expect anybody else in her position to look a gift horse in the mouth and refuse a wild card, why should Emma? Of her recent defeats only the Busca match was one she ought to have won (and almost did). Frankly I suspect a lot of people saying she should play qualifying instead regard Emma as a fluke rather than a legitimate Top 100 player and simply want her to fail.


This isn't Tennis Forum. Most people on here want her to succeed and are frustrated at the route she is taking to do so. I doubt any of us want her to fail and most of us don't regard her US Open title a fluke.

I keep seeing comments that she wouldn't be expected to turn down a wld card. What we don't know is did the tournament court her for a wild card or did she ask for one. If it's the former then the comment may have some legitimacy as it would likely come with a hefty appearance fee, not that Emma needs the money. If she's asking for them then she's not turning anything down, she's making a conscious choice to skip qualifying and make things more difficult for herself.

I'm not a fan of Emma but I don't want her to fail. As with all British tennis players I want her to be the best she can be and have the most successful career she can have. It frustrates me that she still appears to have the mentality that because she won a Grand Slam she is a top 30 player. Perhaps she has the ability to be so, but thats not where her game is right now. She should be playing more where her level is and progress to get back to the level she aspires to be at may come quicker. Sometimes in life you have to take a step back to take two steps forward. And above all she needs to sort out her team because she's not going to get very far without a coach.

She had a fortunate draw this time against another out of form player. Let's not confuse 1 win with her being vindicated in her decision. I want to see with a sustained run of wins at this level before I consider changing my opinions.

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L32:- Tereza Mihalikova(SVK) / Olivia Nicholls (GBR) CR87 (47+40) def Hao-Ching Chan (TPE) / Veronika Kudermetova (***) CR31 (15+16) [6] 6-4 6-2  biggrin

Next opponents won't be decided until tomorrow


 Huge match next - a win will put Olivia at a new CH



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dodrade wrote:

However things go with Muchova Emma has proven herself worthy of a WC this week.

It seems bizarre to me given her achievements that Emma is treated much more harshly on this forum than any other player. We wouldn't expect anybody else in her position to look a gift horse in the mouth and refuse a wild card, why should Emma? Of her recent defeats only the Busca match was one she ought to have won (and almost did). Frankly I suspect a lot of people saying she should play qualifying instead regard Emma as a fluke rather than a legitimate Top 100 player and simply want her to fail.


 Sorry, dodrade, but I'm not with you at all on this one. This is not me, nor the vast majority (nor all?) of this forum. I can think of other forums where it's true but not here.

I haven't posted about the wildcards because I don't really have an opinion - take them, don't take them, ask for them, don't ask for them

All I want her to do is play well (and win) - in that order, so i.e. NOT fail. 

My critcisms (voiced occasionally) have been to do with coaches and attitude to coaches.

But that is still just grounded on the "play well (and win)" objective - I don't care about her coach policy per se 

She hasn't been playing well, or winning. (The first is subjective but - surely - agreed by nearly all, and the second is objective) 

And so people look at reasons, at factors, they question things to change - it's normal.

Yesterday she played well, especially at key moments, and won. It was great. Let's hope there's more of the same      

 



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Monday 17th of February 2025 09:05:25 AM

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Who is the guy now sitting with Jane 0D and Emma's fitness coach?



-- Edited by Julia Carrot on Sunday 16th of February 2025 05:10:38 PM


 Lots of talk about her travelling with Roman Kelecic - that might be the guy you mean 

 



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Coup Droit wrote:
Julia Carrot wrote:

Who is the guy now sitting with Jane 0D and Emma's fitness coach?



-- Edited by Julia Carrot on Sunday 16th of February 2025 05:10:38 PM


 Lots of talk about her travelling with Roman Kelecic - that might be the guy you mean 

 


Thanks so much.  I'd never heard of him, but have checked images and you are probably right.   



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Emma seems to have decided to play more matches than last year but rather than playing qualifying or dropping to lower level tournaments to get more matches she is playing more tournaments. I think it is working to some extent but I suspect she would improve more rapidly by playing a run of easier matches. I remember that Emma's run to the US Open was preceded by reaching the QF of a W100 in Landisville, the Final of a WTA125 in Chicago and qualifying in the US Open before entering the main draw with the confidence and freedom to go for her shots with expectation that they would go in. Commentators remarked that she always seemed to make the right choice of shot, an ability that I suspect came from having played and won so many matches immediately prior to the US Open Main draw.

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L16:- Tereza Mihalikova(SVK) / Olivia Nicholls (GBR) CR87 (47+40) v Yifan Xu (CHN) / Zhaoxuan Yang (CHN) CR206 (54/CH=7+152/CH=9)

The Chinese pair just served up a double-bagel in their first round match.

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L16:- Tereza Mihalikova(SVK) / Olivia Nicholls (GBR) CR87 (47+40) v Yifan Xu (CHN) / Zhaoxuan Yang (CHN) CR206 (54/CH=7+152/CH=9)

The Chinese pair just served up a double-bagel in their first round match.


 A double-bagel over last week's Doha runners-up no less. So random. Not great for the Doha success stories, with three of the singles semifinalists also losing today. Two week-long Masters events back-to-back is not easy.



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the addict wrote:

L16:- Tereza Mihalikova(SVK) / Olivia Nicholls (GBR) CR87 (47+40) v Yifan Xu (CHN) / Zhaoxuan Yang (CHN) CR206 (54/CH=7+152/CH=9)

The Chinese pair just served up a double-bagel in their first round match.


 A double-bagel over last week's Doha runners-up no less. So random. Not great for the Doha success stories, with three of the singles semifinalists also losing today. Two week-long Masters events back-to-back is not easy.


 Thats often the case with other back to backs masters, like IW/Miami, the clay ones, Canada/Cinci - players seldom do well in both, i imagine emotional and physical effort of winning one leads to a let down the following event 



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I must admit I didn't look to see how they got on last week - especially as they didn't look as if they should have been in the draw this week !

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Play suspended in Dubai due to showers - and the forecast is more for the rest of the day. So it is looking unlikely as if either Emma or Liv/Tereza will get on court as there matches before them yet to start.

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dodrade wrote:

However things go with Muchova Emma has proven herself worthy of a WC this week.

It seems bizarre to me given her achievements that Emma is treated much more harshly on this forum than any other player. We wouldn't expect anybody else in her position to look a gift horse in the mouth and refuse a wild card, why should Emma? Of her recent defeats only the Busca match was one she ought to have won (and almost did). Frankly I suspect a lot of people saying she should play qualifying instead regard Emma as a fluke rather than a legitimate Top 100 player and simply want her to fail.


 Not sure many would agree with you on this. Whilst shes not my favourite British player I always want her to win unless shes playing Katie Jodie or Sonay. If shes being offered wild cards and taking them then I have no problem. If however her team are demanding them then I think then its not in her interest as she would be helped more by winning more matches in qualifying. 



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Revised schedule as play has started again, and Emma is still on it.

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I'm not watching it, but 0-4, some close games by the looks of the scoreline.

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