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Post Info TOPIC: Week 15 - ATP Masters 1000 - Monte-Carlo, Monaco (clay)


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RE: Week 15 - ATP Masters 1000 - Monte-Carlo, Monaco (clay)


Stircrazy wrote:

L32:  (5) Jack Draper WR 6 defeated Marcos Giron (USA) WR 45 by 1 & 1  smile


L16:  (5) Jack Draper WR 6 vs Alejandro Davidovich (ESP) WR 42 (CH = 21 in Auguat 2023)



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Jack at 4 all in the final set from a set down. Fighting well against a tough Spanish opponent

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Didnt go his way, 4-6 down final set.

Onwards. Learning how to play well on clay, all good stuff

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I thought Jack did well to take it to a third set.
Shame to end on a DF.
Onwards Jack!

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Watched the end of the second set - Jack did so well to take it to a decider, saved match point in the tiebreak.

Far from his best today, he was getting really frustrated with himself at times but dug in.

Davidovich Fokina is having a strong year and such a tough opponent to break down on this surface.

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It wasn't that there were tons of errors from Jack, just that there were errors on really really straightforward shots

It killed him in points, and completely got udner his skin - at one point he hit three basic forehands out, one after the other

I sort of gave up at that point

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Well I thought he was pretty shocking actually. TEN double faults !!! And that kicking off early on in the match was a waste of energy. Clearly it was not his day and these things happen, but nevertheless less a very disappointing performance overall. Let's hope he weathers it and learns from it. Better now than later in the season to have such a disastrous day. Jack you are better than that.

 

im probably being a bit harsh. I see he and Machac have pulled out of the doubles. Maybe just not feeling well.



-- Edited by Julia Carrot on Thursday 10th of April 2025 04:09:00 PM

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I watched on my (tiny) mobile phone toward the end of the 2nd set and when there was a 5 minute comfort break I heard the umpire call for the restringer to come and collect 2 of Jack's racquets and have a new tension (of 56 as it happens). Is this usual?

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For the record:

L16:  Alejandro Davidovich (ESP) WR 42 defeated (5) Jack Draper WR 6 by 6-3 6-7(6) 6-4  cry

I was kinda hoping that I'd come back from lunch in the West End with friends to good news...  no

 



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Watched most of the match and Jack simply had a poor day at the office - no wonder he was frustrated as ADF didnt play well at all either. 48% first serve percentage wasnt even close to where it needs to be (15% off at least), but he was actually missing by many feet on his first serve as well, so his timing or ball toss must have been out of kilter. And his forehand was incredibly error prone, which was very different from his previous match. And finally his returns were awesome last round, but he wasnt hitting his returns deep enough against ADF today - who wasnt exactly firing serves in himself. Backhand excellent and very reliable, movement pretty decent. If Jack played even 80% of his level compared to Tuesday it would have been more than enough, but thats testament to his improvement that he played so poorly yet still it was a close match against a former finalist in Monte Carlo. The coaches will nail it - wonder what the problem was TBH. Onwards

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He might have felt unwell? He withdrew from the doubles pretty quickly after the loss.

 

EDIT: ah I see Julia had the same thought. 



-- Edited by LordBrownof on Thursday 10th of April 2025 06:39:34 PM

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Anyone see this - Berrettini and Zverev played a 48 shot rally in MC

www.youtube.com/watch

And here is Tennis Abstracts analysis of it

www.tennisabstract.com/blog/

Interestingly, once a rally goes beyond the first few shots, the returner has odds in their favour (based on historical analysis) on clay to win the rally. Extract of Jeff's analysis below:

Here is how the returners odds look at each stage of the rally, based on clay-court matches since 2020 in the Match Charting Project. The table shows the returners win rate when he puts each shot in play:

Shot # Point W%
2 (vs 1st sv) 44.9%
2 (vs 2nd sv) 52.5%
4 52.7%
6 54.5%
8 55.1%
10+ 56.6%
Short version: The longer you last, the better your chances. That 56.6% for shot number ten (and beyond) really means something more like 50/50. A pro who has just put the ball in play has a better chance of winning simply because he hasnt just made an error, and the other guy might. In a very long, evenly-balanced point, the odds will bounce between 60% and 40% in favor of the guy who just landed his last shot.

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Stircrazy wrote:

For the record:

L16:  Alejandro Davidovich (ESP) WR 42 defeated (5) Jack Draper WR 6 by 6-3 6-7(6) 6-4  cry

I was kinda hoping that I'd come back from lunch in the West End with friends to good news...  no

 


 wonhis last 8 match 3 and 2, having a good week



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Just watched Musetti for the first time on some highlights; really good game, lovely one handed backhand, seems a really nice guy. Liked what I saw of him. One to watch

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