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paulisi · Tennis legend

Week 26 - The Championships, Wimbledon (grass) - men's qualifying

9vicman · Futures qualifying

I don't get how they can earn income off naming and image rights, but not prize money. Earnings are earnings right?!

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

paulisi wrote:
I see this silly 'amateur' rules are still in place for US scholarship players.
They can claim up to 10K for expenses, but are allowed to earn income off naming and image rights.
Oliver has one year left and wants to finish, so unless he wins a couple of rounds will probably only be able to claim 10k in prize money ( I assume for the summer)

Yes, I'd put this in another thread this morning too

He'll have a hard decision to make if he beats Riedi - £99k is an awful lot to turn down

And just for one year's worth of college time

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
paulisi wrote:
I see this silly 'amateur' rules are still in place for US scholarship players.
They can claim up to 10K for expenses, but are allowed to earn income off naming and image rights.
Oliver has one year left and wants to finish, so unless he wins a couple of rounds will probably only be able to claim 10k in prize money ( I assume for the summer)
Yes, I'd put this in another thread this morning too
He'll have a hard decision to make if he beats Riedi - £99k is an awful lot to turn down
And just for one year's worth of college time

And he's getting a bit steamed up about it himself now. Report includes a bit more background.

christ · Futures level

US college rules regarding amateur status are in flux at the moment: college football has given up any pretence and now allows the student athletes to be paid, and this is spreading like wildfire through the NCAA and the courts. Whether this spreads to tennis (and San Diego) in time to boost Mr Tarvet's bank balance is another matter.

... although I have limited sympathy for someone that deliberately and knowingly "traps" himself into the college system that he acknowledges was instrumental in honing his skills, when presumably he was well aware that he was agreeing to limit his professional earnings for the duration of his college career.

emmsie69 · Top national player

christ wrote:
US college rules regarding amateur status are in flux at the moment: college football has given up any pretence and now allows the student athletes to be paid, and this is spreading like wildfire through the NCAA and the courts. Whether this spreads to tennis (and San Diego) in time to boost Mr Tarvet's bank balance is another matter.

... although I have limited sympathy for someone that deliberately and knowingly "traps" himself into the college system that he acknowledges was instrumental in honing his skills, when presumably he was well aware that he was agreeing to limit his professional earnings for the duration of his college career.

With the sports like Basketball and American football, historically it was next to impossible to go straight to Pro, Players had to go to College 1st so there is a fair argument there that that is exploitive and unfair. Tennis is different, there was always the opportunity to go Pro immediately. It's not unheard for Students in the US to build up $100s of thousands of student debt so I don't have much sympathy for the Tennis Scholars. For every Oli there will be 100s that get a free education off the back of being good at sport as a Junior.

Instead of moaning about losing out on prize money how about looking at the Financial benefits already gained from Scholarships.

paulisi · Tennis legend

The cost of a yearly scholarship is around $60-70k. If he earns more than that, he could take the prize money and pay the fees