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RE: Weeks 27 & 28 - The Championships, Wimbledon (grass) - main draw


seagull wrote:

Hurkacz has pulled out so a LL for Billy


 Oh goody !!! 

Sorry, I meant, how unfortunate for Hurkacz 



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Billy gets Lajovic

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That's huge - as much as I'm a fan of Billy, I was struggling to see him getting past Hurkacz on grass

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Stircrazy wrote:

L128:  Pedro Martínez (ESP) WR 52 (CH = 36 in February) vs (WC) George Loffhagen WR 302 (CH = 298 two weeks ago)

L128:  (WC) Johannus Monday WR 236 (CH = 232 last week) vs (13) Tommy Paul (USA) WR 13 (CH = 8 at the start of the month)

L128:  (4) Jack Draper WR 4 (= CH) vs Sebastián Báez (ARG) WR 38 (CH = 18 last June)

L128:  Tomás Martín Etcheverry (ARG) WR 59 (CH = 27 in February last year) vs (WC) Jack Pinnington Jones WR 282 (= CH)

L128:  (WC) Daniel Evans WR 170 (CH = 21 in August 2023) vs (WC) Jay Clarke WR 199 (CH = 153 in July 2019)

L128:  (20) Alexei Popyrin (AUS) WR 21 (= CH) vs (WC) Arthur Féry WR 465 (CH = 229 last August)

L128:  Ethan Quinn (USA) WR 95 (= CH) vs (WC) Henry Searle WR 409 (CH = 389 in February)

L128:  Jacob Fearnley WR 51 (CH = 49 two weeks ago) vs Joăo Fonseca (BRA) WR 57 (= CH)

L128:  Mattia Bellucci (ITA) WR 74 (CH = 66 in April) vs (WC) Oliver Crawford WR 252 (CH = 190 in January last year)

L128:  Cameron Norrie WR 61 (CH = 8 in September 2022 vs Roberto Bautista (ESP) WR 43 (CH = 9 in November 2019)

L128:  (Q) Oliver Tarvet WR 719 vs (Q) Leandro Riedi (SUI) WR 506


L128:  Billy Harris WR 142 (CH = 101 last September) vs (LL) Dusan Lajovic (SRB) WR 118 (CH = 23 in April 2019)



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Thats feels like a real break for Billy!

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And hes not in a terrible part of the draw.

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Coup Droit wrote:

it's due to be SO hot on Monday - up to 35 degrees - full sun

the players who handle heat well, or who at least get an 11 am start, will have a serious advantage


From the Beeb's report on the amber health alert currently in force in the southern part of the country:

Temperatures are forecast to rise into the 30s over the weekend, coniciding with Glastonbury Festival, before reaching a new high for the year on Monday, when the Wimbledon tennis championship begins.

Monday could be the hottest day of the year so far with a temperature of 34C, possibly 35C in London towards the Cambridgeshire area, according to BBC Weather. The Met Office says London could reach 34-35C.  That would make Monday the hottest ever start to Wimbledon too, exceeding the previous opening-day record of 29.3C in 2001 - although players and spectators can expect more comfortable temperatures in the 20s by the middle of next week.

The hottest day during Wimbledon as a whole was on 1 July 2015 when 35.7C was recorded.

I'm not planning even to venture outdoors! 



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Stircrazy wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:

L128:  Pedro Martínez (ESP) WR 52 (CH = 36 in February) vs (WC) George Loffhagen WR 302 (CH = 298 two weeks ago)

L128:  (WC) Johannus Monday WR 236 (CH = 232 last week) vs (13) Tommy Paul (USA) WR 13 (CH = 8 at the start of the month)

L128:  (4) Jack Draper WR 4 (= CH) vs Sebastián Báez (ARG) WR 38 (CH = 18 last June)

L128:  Tomás Martín Etcheverry (ARG) WR 59 (CH = 27 in February last year) vs (WC) Jack Pinnington Jones WR 282 (= CH)

L128:  (WC) Daniel Evans WR 170 (CH = 21 in August 2023) vs (WC) Jay Clarke WR 199 (CH = 153 in July 2019)

L128:  (20) Alexei Popyrin (AUS) WR 21 (= CH) vs (WC) Arthur Féry WR 465 (CH = 229 last August)

L128:  Ethan Quinn (USA) WR 95 (= CH) vs (WC) Henry Searle WR 409 (CH = 389 in February)

L128:  Jacob Fearnley WR 51 (CH = 49 two weeks ago) vs Joăo Fonseca (BRA) WR 57 (= CH)

L128:  Mattia Bellucci (ITA) WR 74 (CH = 66 in April) vs (WC) Oliver Crawford WR 252 (CH = 190 in January last year)

L128:  Cameron Norrie WR 61 (CH = 8 in September 2022 vs Roberto Bautista (ESP) WR 43 (CH = 9 in November 2019)

L128:  (Q) Oliver Tarvet WR 719 vs (Q) Leandro Riedi (SUI) WR 506


L128:  Billy Harris WR 142 (CH = 101 last September) vs (LL) Dusan Lajovic (SRB) WR 118 (CH = 23 in April 2019)


A BBC article which kicks off with comments about Ollie T's indignation about the rule which prevents him from claiming a maximum of $10,000 + expenses per annum from any prize money he wins (though he's actually quite diplomatic about it) & moves on to Jay Clarke's comments on the barriers still confronting black players in the UK. 



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Stircrazy wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:

L128:  Pedro Martínez (ESP) WR 52 (CH = 36 in February) vs (WC) George Loffhagen WR 302 (CH = 298 two weeks ago)

L128:  (WC) Johannus Monday WR 236 (CH = 232 last week) vs (13) Tommy Paul (USA) WR 13 (CH = 8 at the start of the month)

L128:  (4) Jack Draper WR 4 (= CH) vs Sebastián Báez (ARG) WR 38 (CH = 18 last June)

L128:  Tomás Martín Etcheverry (ARG) WR 59 (CH = 27 in February last year) vs (WC) Jack Pinnington Jones WR 282 (= CH)

L128:  (WC) Daniel Evans WR 170 (CH = 21 in August 2023) vs (WC) Jay Clarke WR 199 (CH = 153 in July 2019)

L128:  (20) Alexei Popyrin (AUS) WR 21 (= CH) vs (WC) Arthur Féry WR 465 (CH = 229 last August)

L128:  Ethan Quinn (USA) WR 95 (= CH) vs (WC) Henry Searle WR 409 (CH = 389 in February)

L128:  Jacob Fearnley WR 51 (CH = 49 two weeks ago) vs Joăo Fonseca (BRA) WR 57 (= CH)

L128:  Mattia Bellucci (ITA) WR 74 (CH = 66 in April) vs (WC) Oliver Crawford WR 252 (CH = 190 in January last year)

L128:  Cameron Norrie WR 61 (CH = 8 in September 2022 vs Roberto Bautista (ESP) WR 43 (CH = 9 in November 2019)

L128:  (Q) Oliver Tarvet WR 719 vs (Q) Leandro Riedi (SUI) WR 506


L128:  Billy Harris WR 142 (CH = 101 last September) vs (LL) Dusan Lajovic (SRB) WR 118 (CH = 23 in April 2019)


A BBC article which kicks off with comments about Ollie T's indignation about the rule which prevents him from claiming a maximum of $10,000 + expenses per annum from any prize money he wins (though he's actually quite diplomatic about it) & moves on to Jay Clarke's comments on the barriers still confronting black players in the UK. 


 ... the "barriers" that Mr Clarke - along with the others named in the article - has demonstrated are perfectly surmountable.



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To my mind that doesn't mean that there are not "barriers" nor that enough is being done to change things. Maybe at least some players' sucesses are being achieved in spite of ...

Clearly there were barriers in the past. I don't know anything like enough to say anything much re things currently. But the ethnic spread among our leading players proves nothing given say other possible social and motivational issues.



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Yes
Just because a few of a certain group are successful doesn't mean that there are no 'barriers'
(I read barriers to be difficulties, fences that canbe climbed over with a ladder, rather than impossibilities, 200 ft walls)

If, say, 80% of a certain group live in areas with no public courts, then you'll still have some success from the other 20% and a few of the 80% whocan access private courts.

But it's certainly a barrier

Now, 'working class' children may have more of a barrier , class may be more important than ethnicity

Haven't seen stats, just stating an obvious possibility

But it doesn't mean Jay's wrong

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