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Danny1312 · Strong Club Player

Weeks 27 & 28 - The Championships, Wimbledon (Womens') (grass) - main draw

Peter too · Tennis legend

So Emma beat Vondrousova 3 & 3 and last week Vondrousova beat Sabalenka 2 & 4. It doesn't necessarily follow that if A beats B and B beats C that A can beat C but if Emma plays like this again her match against Sabalenka should at least be competitive.

Jan · Hall of fame

PaulM wrote:
On the plus side, Katie has very little to defend until October. She seemed very down in her press conference, she knows it wasn't good enough today. Hopefully she can regroup over the summer and squeeze up into a seeded slot for the US Open.

Seagull I think she was being polite/respectful rather than honest

-- Edited by PaulM on Wednesday 2nd of July 2025 07:23:49 PM

I've not seen the interview, but suspect this is the case. Look at the criticism Sabalenka got when she lost the final in Paris and only talked about how badly she had played rather than crediting her opponent.

foobarbaz · Strong Club Player

Didn't watch the match, but if the quality of play from the Brit was poor compared with the previous match, as people are saying, perhaps Boulter hadn't recovered that well in the interim. It has been pretty warm these last couple of days. Maybe having won the first set today, there just wasn't anything left in the tank.

Danny1312 · Strong Club Player

foobarbaz wrote:
Didn't watch the match, but if the quality of play from the Brit was poor compared with the previous match, as people are saying, perhaps Boulter hadn't recovered that well in the interim. It has been pretty warm these last couple of days. Maybe having won the first set today, there just wasn't anything left in the tank.

Maybe it was the case but having watched the match the first set was as poor but somehow won it. But maybe hadn't recovered at all... But in my opinion it wasn't fatigue there weren't really many long draining rallies it was more mentally.

foobarbaz · Strong Club Player

Danny1312 wrote:
foobarbaz wrote:
Didn't watch the match, but if the quality of play from the Brit was poor compared with the previous match, as people are saying, perhaps Boulter hadn't recovered that well in the interim. It has been pretty warm these last couple of days. Maybe having won the first set today, there just wasn't anything left in the tank.
Maybe it was the case but having watched the match the first set was as poor but somehow won it. But maybe hadn't recovered at all... But in my opinion it wasn't fatigue there weren't really many long draining rallies it was more mentally.

A large number of double faults might be an indication that there was a bit of an physical issue, but folk who watched the match will have a better view on it than me.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Sonay could reach the quarters here, the next couple of matches are winnable - tough but winnable.

jb288 · Satellite level

JonH comes home wrote:
Sonay could reach the quarters here, the next couple of matches are winnable - tough but winnable.

I think she's looking brilliant - forehand has become a real weapon. Can't wait!

Also such a joy to see Emma hitting deep and consistent.

Peter too · Tennis legend

Half the seeds have fallen already, including seeds 2,3,4,5 and R2 is not yet finished.

dodrade · Futures qualifying

paulisi wrote:
How good was Emma.
And contrastingly:
How poor was Katie

Don't understand why people are so harsh on Emma here sometimes when she's still clearly our best player (even if Katie is back ahead in the live rankings).

Great to see Sonay's progress, strangely she still seems to be under the radar for most of the MSM despite her rapid rise up the rankings.

-- Edited by dodrade on Thursday 3rd of July 2025 12:02:15 AM

Peter too · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
Sonay could reach the quarters here, the next couple of matches are winnable - tough but winnable.

If Sonay reaches the QFs and Emma loses to Sabalenka, Sonay will become the British number 1.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

I didn't watch a single ball of Katie's match and it seems like that proved a wise decision

Thoroughly enjoyed Emma's match, of course - how could you not ???

SO good to see her really going at the ball

(And Sonay's singles - as mentioned before)

And also watched a bit of both doubles - Jodie and Sonay was fun - and I missed the ulcer-inducing third set collapse from 5-1 up and then the ultra-joy when they managed to close it

Harriet and Maia was a bit sad - they had that second set, insofar as any one 'has' a set in tennis, in particular in doubles

But, basically, I got all the good bits yesterday and unwittingly managed to avoid all the awful bits

GAMEOVER · Satellite level

Peter too wrote:
Half the seeds have fallen already, including seeds 2,3,4,5 and R2 is not yet finished.

Something wrong with the rankings. Players who looked good at Eastbourne couldn't get through the the 1st round here such as Joint and Eala although Eala had a hard draw. From a British point of view glad Sonay reversed the Ostapenko result.The players who reached the later stages last year Vekic and Paolini could not get through the 2nd round.

GAMEOVER · Satellite level

Vondrousova did for Jo in the semi finals in Paris in 2019 but she has not presented the same problems for our players at Wimbledon. Emma beat her in 2021 and 2025 and Anna Brogan beat her when she was the top seed at junior Wimbledon.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

GAMEOVER wrote:
Peter too wrote:
Half the seeds have fallen already, including seeds 2,3,4,5 and R2 is not yet finished.
Something wrong with the rankings. Players who looked good at Eastbourne couldn't get through the the 1st round here such as Joint and Eala although Eala had a hard draw. From a British point of view glad Sonay reversed the Ostapenko result.The players who reached the later stages last year Vekic and Paolini could not get through the 2nd round.

I dont think there is anything wrong with the rankings - the rankings reflect performance over a year and the 32 seeds are the players who have accumulated the most points. Whether they are the 32 best players on grass, this fortnight is another matter - the rankings dont necessarily show that, they reward the 32 best points scorers.

the upsets in mens and womens alike - 17 mens seeds remain - reflect the fact that levels are much more uniform than in many years, grass continues to be a a surface most dont play on or have experience on and is a leveller compared to other surfaces.

Much as it is great to see the big names go head to head in the big events, its also very exciting to see new names cause turmoil in the draw and go far in these events, creating stories to live a lifetime.