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indiana · Tennis legend

Weeks 27 & 28 - The Championships, Wimbledon (Womens') (grass) - main draw

HarryGem · Club Coach

RJH1962 wrote:
Helen40 wrote:
RJH1962 wrote:
Helen40 wrote:
Watching Siegmund, and wishing Sonay or Emma could incorporate some of that. Really hoping she'll beat Sabalenka, but not looking too promising now.
Have to say i didnt like the time wasting and gamesmanship being shown. Very happy that Sabalenka got through.
Not the time wasting, I can't say I saw it as gamesmanship, but variety and tactics were superb.
Agree with the variety but she was deliberately making Sabalenka wait to serve which I felt crossed the line. Also every change of ends she stayed on her seat at least 30 seconds after the umpire called time.

As opposed to the deliberate long and over loud screaming which continues until her opponent plays their shot and which she can stop when it is obvious the ball is going into the net for eg. It is time this was dealt with by the sport. Siegemund always plays that way and gets into the minds of her opponents. The umpire should deal with it better but not as bad as the screaming in my opinion.

So glad Anisimova beat her. Final could be interesting but Swiatek has looked very god so far.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Yes, I quite like Sabalenka and I have no real problem (well, a bit bit but I can live with it) with the initial scream

But it seems to me that the rule should be that any scream/shout must be finished as the ball crosses the net i.e. when it goes onto the other side of the court

And I think that would be really easy to monitor for the umpire as he/she's sitting right on that net and the scream is very audible i.e. it's not a tricky, delicate thing to call

I think if this was called hindrance then the players would make sure the noise stopped earlier, which is no problem for them - as you say, they're perfectly capable of doing so

Helen40 · Grand Slam Champion

I'm not sure it bothers other players that much, but it's not pleasant for me as a spectator.

I remember another player being asked about Shreikopova's scream and saying it wasn't an issue.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Helen40 wrote:
I'm not sure it bothers other players that much, but it's not pleasant for me as a spectator.

I remember another player being asked about Shreikopova's scream and saying it wasn't an issue.

yes - I think they should introduce the rule for us, the TV watchers, it's dreadful - but basing it on the other player and the ball crossing the net seems easy - it's rather arbitrary otherwise, unless you have a noise meter it's going to be very discretionary, and that generally is not good.

The serve clock has worked pretty well. The fact that umpires no longer overturn linecalls and linesmen no longer call them works pretty well. Nothing is perfect, there will be mistakes, but there's far fewer with technology, IMO, and there's far less ability for the top players to exert pressure, as they did before.

Now, toilet breaks etc are another point .....

But I think the noise rule re crossing the net would be quite simple and a benefit to everyone

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

On a separate note re the shrieks, I've seen plenty of trainers of young players

And they obviously all train them to exhale as you hit the shot - standard stuff - very important

BUT if the trainer is down the other end, feeding balls, they can't check they're exhaling

So a lot of trainers actually tell their young players to shout as they hit, to prove they're exhaling

it's understandable but daft

Andy Parker · Club Coach

What a shock in the final - I felt for Anisimova to be beaten so badly - 6-0 6-0 - the only other time this has happened at Wimbledon was when Dorothea Chambers beat Dora Boothby 6-0 6-0 in 1911, and the only other Grand Slam final 6-0 6-0 was Steffi Graf's thrashing of Zvreva in the French Open final in 1988 - that one was even more one sided and took just 34 minutes, a match I remember well.

emmsie69 · Top national player

I swore I'd never go to a final after the Berdych/Nadal one. There's probably a few there today saying the same.

Var · Futures qualifying

emmsie69 wrote:
I swore I'd never go to a final after the Berdych/Nadal one. There's probably a few there today saying the same.

Possibly, but I always thought Iga was on fire the second week. I feel for Amanda though, if she had just been able to bring some of her game to the court. Nevermind. Lets hope for a cat and mouse five setter tomorrow!

emmsie69 · Top national player

That's not a criticism of Amanda, it's just a lot of money for a pretty rubbish match, that's the nature of Sport but prices are so high now it's not worth taking a chance that you'll get a classic.

Var · Futures qualifying

emmsie69 wrote:
That's not a criticism of Amanda, it's just a lot of money for a pretty rubbish match, that's the nature of Sport but prices are so high now it's not worth taking a chance that you'll get a classic.

Yes. I wonder how much people paid for a ticket? Doesnt bear thinking about if you think about how long they were on court. I could never afford to pay for a show court ticket at Wimbledon now, but I did get to queue and get into the standing on Number one court to watch McEnroe! Those were the days. PS He threw one of his massive tantrums.you could hear a pin drop!

9vicman · Futures qualifying

Hopefully most came early and watched the doubles final.

emmsie69 · Top national player

£240 to £315 dependent on where the seat is. I think our tickets in 2010 were £106 each, back then all the seats were the same price.
We used to get No.1 court on the Saturday when my Son was little and they were £27 each, now £40 so a reasonable price but back then, with no roof, you could get a Men's SF (we did 1 year and another year we got the Men's doubles Final)

Var · Futures qualifying

emmsie69 wrote:
£240 to £315 dependent on where the seat is. I think our tickets in 2010 were £106 each, back then all the seats were the same price.
We used to get No.1 court on the Saturday when my Son was little and they were £27 each, now £40 so a reasonable price but back then, with no roof, you could get a Men's SF (we did 1 year and another year we got the Men's doubles Final)

Happy days!

emmsie69 · Top national player

Var wrote:
emmsie69 wrote:
£240 to £315 dependent on where the seat is. I think our tickets in 2010 were £106 each, back then all the seats were the same price.
We used to get No.1 court on the Saturday when my Son was little and they were £27 each, now £40 so a reasonable price but back then, with no roof, you could get a Men's SF (we did 1 year and another year we got the Men's doubles Final)
Happy days!

Yep, I'm not a fan of the roof biggrin