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week 32 - WTA1000 - Cincinnati, USA Hard


Potentially bad US Open seeding news for Emma!

I have been looking at OER and it essentially agrees with the latest live rankings points for all the top 32 contenders, except rather importantly Kudermetova.

While live-tennis has her currently behind Emma (live 1426 points) on 1406 points, OER has her ahead of Emma on 1438 points, thus putting Emma back to live #35.

And looking at the OER breakdown of Kudermetova's 1373 points in today's 11/08 rankings, OER looks right to me. It shows a 0 for last year's Concinnati, so we have live ranking points of 1373 - 0 + 65 = 1438.

live-tennis seems to be ignoring that Cinci 2024 0 pointer and is taking off her lowest general counter of 32 points, so getting points of 1373 - 32 + 65 = 1406

Clearly if Emma is actually live #35, we at least need a further top 32 US Open withdrawal or for her to beat Sabalenka.

Now, as per earlier, we did have Kudermetova as the main danger, given it seemed she would exceed Emma's points if she beat Tauson in the L32. It now looks though that she is already ahead.

Oh, just go and beat Sabalenka, Emma !!



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I don't see Emma being non-seeded for the US Open as such a massive issue. There are probably 10 or 12 players out there who are really strong at the moment, who you wouldn't want to draw, but a lot of the players ranked in the top 32 are very beatable, and there are numerous players ranked from 32 to 100 who are at a similar standard to the lesser players in the top 32.

Several things could and do tend to happen. The first is that quite a few of the weaker players in the top 32 tend to go out in the first couple of rounds of the Grand Slams, and the second is that if you are seeded 17 to 32, you may well be matched up with one of the top players by the 3rd round, so to be a low seed isn't that much better than being a non-seed. Obviously Emma could be unseeded and draw the likes of Sabalenka, Gauff or Anisimova in the first round, but really statistically that would make her very unlucky.

Right now I feel Emma is in the 'dangerous floater' category - I think she is a player that none of the lesser seeds will want to draw in the first couple of rounds, and even the very best wouldn't feel particularly lucky to draw her.

Anyway she may scrape into the top 32 seeds - looks like it will be a close thing.






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Dangerous floater maybe, but there's a 1 in 6 chance of drawing a top 16 player in the first round so still preferable to be seeded, even if you get drawn against another dangerous floater (or almost anyone inside the top 50 the way things are going this season)

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Re playing top 50 players, Emma has now beaten more top 50 players this year than in any previous year. Right enough she has played more than in any previous year, and last year's win % was better ( though nothing will ever beat her 2021 % )

Won / Lost against top 50 :
2021: 7 / 0
2022 : 4 / 10
2023 : 2 / 4
2024 : 12 / 8
2025 : 13 / 13
TOTAL: 38 / 35

Gets rather tougher for Emma against the very top ranked players. This year she is 3 / 8 against top 20 players and 1 (Navarro) / 7 agsinst top 10 players.( so tbf I guess 2 / 1 against 11 to 20 ranked players )..

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Two games in and Emma has not dropped a point....

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That's not a bad start winning the first 9 points of the match.

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Pity it didn't last though - now 2-3*

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Eight games in an the games are coming in pairs


Emma got the first pair of games. 2-0
Sabalenka the next two. 2-4
Emma the next two. 4-4

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Kind of enjoying the new coachs constant chat. I know on court coaching is meh, but while its here- good fun hahaha

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Good match - ebbing both ways.
You cannot let Aryna swing from the back of the court...

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Jajon wrote:

Kind of enjoying the new coachs constant chat. I know on court coaching is meh, but while its here- good fun hahaha


Emma saying she cant hear it...

I'm not sure she will like getting so much advice... but we'll see!



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well done getting the 2nd set

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Cracking match - Emma played really well in set 2

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Can't watch but am pleased to see that the beeb are doing live text coverage - www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/live/cy9881n2r8xt. How's it looking on the eye so far? Is Sabalenka playing less well than at Wimbledon or Emma better? Seems impressive how well Emma is holding. Am I right in thinking Sabalenka is on a wining streak of all 17 tiebreaks she's played this year? It'd be fun to break that run for the win here!

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Emma holds an insane 13 deuce game for 4-4* in the third.

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