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RE: British Tour 2025

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

The Scottish doubles championship thingy took place last week

Shout out to the Lumsden family

(and nice to see our Jonny O on the winner's board)

FINALS

Maia Lumsden & Isabelle Haverlag def. Tegan Bush & Chloe Cleaver 6-4 6-4

Ewen Lumsden & Jonny O'Mara def. Joe Tyler & James Mackinlay 6-3 6-4

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

The players for the TS Open Tour Finals this weekend is now announced:

Mens competitions.lta.org.uk/sport/event.aspx

Womens competitions.lta.org.uk/sport/event.aspx

Top seeds are Aadya Iyer in the women's and Nicolas Rosenzweig in the men's.

Anna McBride of this board (her Dad at least) is in the women's field

Not sure when the British Tour Masters field is formally confirmed (Lambda mentions the players qualified above but I presume there is some scope for movement if player's choose not to play?).

Play in the British Tour Masters starts Thursday through Friday

Lambda · Top national player

Lambda wrote:
The top 3 on the final leader board are
Jay Johnson-Hauldren, Marcus Walters and Benjamin Gusic-Wan for the men
Mia Wainwright, Eloise Newberry and Ciara Moore for the women

Based on the fact sheet criteria, they'll be invited to the Masters along with

Phoenix Weir, James Story, Matt Summers, Lois Newberry, Katherine Barnes, Freya Christie (Premier Tier winners)
and last year's winners Harry Wendelken & Eliz Maloney and a LTA discretionary WC.

Should any invitations be declined the next on the leaderboard to be invited are
Nathan Mansfield, Cameron Fryer, Alfie King
Sophia Christodoulou, Chloe Cleaver, Tamara Kuti

Draw will be on 8 December when we should know the field for certain

All the men take up their place. No wildcard awarded so Nathan Mansfield joins the field.
Eloise Newberry and Katherine Barnes are replaced by Sophia Christodoulou and Chloe Cleaver. Tegan Bush gets the wild card.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Lambda wrote:
Lambda wrote:
The top 3 on the final leader board are
Jay Johnson-Hauldren, Marcus Walters and Benjamin Gusic-Wan for the men
Mia Wainwright, Eloise Newberry and Ciara Moore for the women

Based on the fact sheet criteria, they'll be invited to the Masters along with

Phoenix Weir, James Story, Matt Summers, Lois Newberry, Katherine Barnes, Freya Christie (Premier Tier winners)
and last year's winners Harry Wendelken & Eliz Maloney and a LTA discretionary WC.

Should any invitations be declined the next on the leaderboard to be invited are
Nathan Mansfield, Cameron Fryer, Alfie King
Sophia Christodoulou, Chloe Cleaver, Tamara Kuti

Draw will be on 8 December when we should know the field for certain
All the men take up their place. No wildcard awarded so Nathan Mansfield joins the field.
Eloise Newberry and Katherine Barnes are replaced by Sophia Christodoulou and Chloe Cleaver. Tegan Bush gets the wild card.

Thanks Lambda - so no player seems to be playing both the British and TS events. Sensible!

Harry Wendelken stands out as by far the top player on the mens list, good chance for a repeat there. Womens looks much more wide open and probably lesser quality field?

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

British Tour Masters draws out:

Men:

Group 1 - Wendelken, Walters, Johnson-Hauldren, Gusic-Wan

Group 2 - Story, Summers, Weir, Mansfield

Women:

Group 1 - Christie, Ciara Moore, Lois Newberry, Christodoulou

Group 2 - Bush, Wainwright, Maloney, Cleaver

I believe the group matches take place over Thursday and Friday, with semi finals and finals on Saturday.

telstar · Club Coach

British Tour 2025 - including Masters

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

British Tour Masters

Lambda · Top national player

It's a shame that certain individuals with power have decided they don't want a thread about the British Tour Masters on "their" board and merged the threads with the general thread. I don't see why the men's and women's boards should be exclusively for the pro tour. It would be nice to have brought out those that have made the achievement to reach the Masters and give them the recognition, especially in a quiet week when there is little else happening on the men's and women's boards. After all the men's board is for "discussion of British male players" and the womens board for "discussion of British women players". Nothing in those descriptions that suggest they are exclusively for discussion of pro events. Rant over.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Lambda wrote:
It's a shame that certain individuals with power have decided they don't want a thread about the British Tour Masters on "their" board and merged the threads with the general thread. I don't see why the men's and women's boards should be exclusively for the pro tour. It would be nice to have brought out those that have made the achievement to reach the Masters and give them the recognition, especially in a quiet week when there is little else happening on the men's and women's boards. After all the men's board is for "discussion of British male players" and the womens board for "discussion of British women players". Nothing in those descriptions that suggest they are exclusively for discussion of pro events. Rant over.

Agreed! Who did that ?

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

I guess whoever did it wasnt malicious so much as assuming this was the thread? It crossed my mind wed duplicate and I commented thus but then decided a mens and womens was good so deleted my comment!

the addict · Tennis legend

I saw the duplicates and commented in both because this thread has been running all year. Deleted my comment from here but not elsewhere.

indiana · Tennis legend

I had nout to do with it, but saw it as an attempt at tidiness with no further motive ( for those who don't know the men's and women's Masters finals draws had been posted in new ( now deleted ) men's and women's sections threads as well as being separately added to this existing thread. Some of that info, while a repeat, was at the same time merged into this thread.

None of us have "their board" as such, with the active moderators generally moderating over the whole forum.

And while I see Lambda's points re having the info in the men's and womens sections, as far as I am concerned there has never been any active intention to keep these sections for just the pro tour players with somehow meaning to give less recognition to non worldwide pro tour tournament players. It is just that some series have landed ( rightly or wrongly - though not sure there is a right or wrong ) in the general section, with men's and women's results for a tournament combined ( and combined events in these series are more prevalent than in these international pro events ).

So maybe some points to be thought further about but the supposed intent of the mod's actions I honestly severely question ( and this is no support another mod thing, I have still discussed it with none of them ).

I hope this adds a little clarity.

-- Edited by indiana on Wednesday 10th of December 2025 08:38:21 PM

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

On one level it doesnt matter, at all. But I think given that Telstar had set them up, there was no harm keeping them up for the reasons Lambda suggests. Given the lack of tennis taking place, Id certainly follow them the next few days and having a dedicated thread seems a good idea for mens and womens. But I certainly wouldnt get too excited either way!

But it does raise the question - say Jack D had played last week at the Copper Box in the UTS Showdown, where would we put that? To me , Id go in the mens, but its an exho, would that make a difference?

indiana · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
On one level it doesnt matter, at all. But I think given that Telstar had set them up, there was no harm keeping them up for the reasons Lambda suggests. Given the lack of tennis taking place, Id certainly follow them the next few days and having a dedicated thread seems a good idea for mens and womens. But I certainly wouldnt get too excited either way!

But it does raise the question - say Jack D had played last week at the Copper Box in the UTS Showdown, where would we put that? To me , Id go in the mens, but its an exho, would that make a difference?

Well, as I tried to explain, there is to my mind no particular intent in the first place to keep the men's and women's sections for international pro tour events so I'd say that such an event would just be judged at the time ( there is no rule to make a difference ) and I wouldn't have thought ( certainly before today ) that it was a biggie.

Didn't personally interest me, Jack playing or not. Personally, I would have more expected it to be in the men's section, but hey ho if someone put it in the general section.

For surely still for such an event it is still indeed no biggie either way?